Starmer's vision quest

[multitool]

I wonder what might happen if the US, France, and the UK gave up their nuclear weapons?

Hmmmm....

 

[Deleted member 49]

Or you have them all, spend far more on the last three, and have ongoing discussion about how much that spend should be.

The last three before you even begin to think about Nuclear for me...for a Labour party it should go without saying.

 

[multitool]

The last three before you even begin to think about Nuclear for me...

And there we have Adam's problem, right there.

Refusal to think.

 

[Deleted member 49]

And there we have Adam's problem, right there.

Refusal to think.

RIP.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/29/cnd-co-founder-pat-arrowsmith-dies-aged-93

 

[fozy tornip]

I'm very reticent about taking clear positions/making firm policy pronouncements on the issues of the day.
It hadn't occurred to me I might inadvertently be elected Prime Minister.

 

[fozy tornip]

I wonder what might happen if the US, France, and the UK gave up their nuclear weapons?

Hmmmm....

We'd all be speaking Russian/Cantonese or living in the landscape of McCarthy's 'The Road', but with radiation sickness and blast burns?

 

[multitool]

We'd all be speaking Russian/Cantonese or living in the landscape of McCarthy's 'The Road', but with radiation sickness and blast burns?

It would alter the strategic landscape considerably.

But yeah. You do you.

 

[multitool]

RIP.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/29/cnd-co-founder-pat-arrowsmith-dies-aged-93

Because, its all about the UK isn't it.

 

[multitool]

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1708361097693249731?s=20

Starmer setting out clear distance between attitude of next Labour government and current Tory one, especially in the light of the Home Secretary's recent comments.

Obviously, Adam will pop by for a glass of whine.

 

[newfhouse]

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1708361097693249731?s=20

Starmer setting out clear distance between attitude of next Labour government and current Tory one.

Obviously, Adam will pop in for a whine.

Let’s see if his new pledge lasts the week, shall we?

Has he responded to the Forde report yet?

 

[Rusty Nails]

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1708361097693249731?s=20

Starmer setting out clear distance between attitude of next Labour government and current Tory one, especially in the light of the Home Secretary's recent comments.

Obviously, Adam will pop by for a glass of whine.

This has been promised for three years so nothing new.

While potentially a positive step, as it stands it does not provide clear distance. It is a wish-list platitude that could mean anything to anyone without committing himself to any details for scrutiny.

 

[multitool]

This has been promised for three years so nothing new.

While potentially a positive step, as it stands it does not provide clear distance. It is a wish-list platitude that could mean anything to anyone without committing himself to any details for scrutiny.

Does it make any difference how long it has been promised, if the promise is coming from a party not able to enact it until elected?

 

[Rusty Nails]

Does it make any difference how long it has been promised, if the promise is coming from a party not able to enact it until elected?

I did say it was potentially positive, but the more meat on a promise the more confidence I have that it is genuinely going to come to fruition, even after using Baroness Lawrence on the working group.

It is difficult to hold someone to vague promises and it is not as if Starmer has gone back on any pledges is it?

I hope he gets in and delivers on this but I admit to having the wisdmom of experience being cynical and am not getting carried away by that tweet soundbite, and at the moment it does not provide that clear distance. Let us see the detail in the Manifesto.

 

[Deleted member 49]

It's happening.

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1708361097693249731?s=20

Starmer setting out clear distance between attitude of next Labour government and current Tory one, especially in the light of the Home Secretary's recent comments.

Obviously, Adam will pop by for a glass of whine.

 

[multitool]

And lo. He cometh.