Starmer's vision quest
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secretsqirrel
Member
But….but according to the DM & Telegraph it is a triumph of brexit.
Oh the soul searching and the angst
briantrumpet
Senior Member
But….but according to the DM & Telegraph it is a triumph of brexit.
Oh the soul searching and the angst
I think they've got terribly confused by this one. They need a brilliant brain like Truss to tell them what to think, and then they can all fall into line.
trouble is, bottom line, we've given away stuff (eg revenue, protections) and we are not even back to the position we were in Jan this year (ie we're still worse off than in Jan despite giving stuff away).
And some "detsails" are concerning as they can't be verified eg "No hormone fed beef" except US farmers stop feeding hormones as cattl;e get nearer slaughter so yoiu can't detect the hormones. Good job I'm vegetarian but with details still to emerge maybe we will also be getting banned pesticides in our veg.
Ian
This is all true, and a concern. The solution is simple, don't buy American meat. The tariffs are meaningless if there is no market.
bobzmyunkle
Über Member
In reality will it be labelled as American? I'll have to ask my local pie shop where they source their beef.
Why not? They won't be offended. Our butcher only uses locally sourced meat and supermarkets label the origin.
secretsqirrel
Member
Consumers in the UK have a right to know where their meat was reared and slaughtered, any labelling should tell you this.
I would quite happily not buy beef if I was in any doubt.
bobzmyunkle
Über Member
It's not so much why not, more most people won't. I eat very little meat and I'm affluent enough to be able to choose quality over price. I also have the time to make that choice. I suspect American beef will be used at the cheap/processed end of the food market.
briantrumpet
Senior Member
I'll be checking, for sure. It was bad enough before Trump, but now they are defanging all the regulatory agencies, I suspect we're going to see some wild public health and safety disasters in the US.
Pross
Regular
Is it any worse than the French horse meat those products currently use?
C R
Guru
We are already seeing that with the measles epidemic in Texas and surrounding states. The WHO now consider that herd immunity to measles has been lost.
briantrumpet
Senior Member
It's going to be interesting to see how obvious the degradations become by the time of the midterms, and how desperately the administration tries to cover them up by muzzling reporting of statistics. I think the most visible one will be air safety, as it's quite tricky to cover up air crashes, and given Americans' addiction to unlimited air travel, I suspect there will be quite a few 'incidents'.
Others, such as public health ones, will be somewhat slower-burn, but the death toll could eventually be in the millions, particularly if it involves anything like covid. That'll be hard to cover up, and is likely to affect the poor and poorly educated (i.e. overwhelmingly MAGA) to a much greater extent.
Ian H
Legendary Member
It's a bit like Viz without the humour.
briantrumpet
Senior Member
Well, the humour is unintended, at least. I do find the Telegraph quite amusing from time to time.
