Starmer's vision quest

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Shortfall

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I just don't get it. I think we should give Angela Rayner or Jess Philips a go.

I mean if you think Starmer is bad then knock yourself out but he prepared to be bitterly disappointed. The nearest analogy I can think of is," I'm not enjoying this dose of crabs, so I'm going to catch herpes and gonorrhea instead, how bad can they be? "
 

First Aspect

Well-Known Member
Ditto. Still content with that choice, even if Starmer is turning out a bit shït while chasing the Reform vote.

Me too.

Thinking about why so many people vote for impossible then get angry. And I think the tax promises are a good example.

If you listen to one sided media then you aren't going to have considered the counter arguments that Jeremy Hunt was making clear at the time. Hypocrisy yes, but true nonetheless. And discussed also by lots of the mainstream media.

I understood this and voted on balance (by balance, I mean get rid of this shambles). I am more or less getting what I'd expected, with added international affairs competence.

But if you only get your "news" from echo chambers, surely reality will be a let down.
 

Pross

Regular
I mean if you think Starmer is bad then knock yourself out but he prepared to be bitterly disappointed. The nearest analogy I can think of is," I'm not enjoying this dose of crabs, so I'm going to catch herpes and gonorrhea instead, how bad can they be? "

So do you think the leader of the 6th form debating society, Badenoch, would be better? Or is your preference Farage?
 

Psamathe

Über Member
So do you think the leader of the 6th form debating society, Badenoch, would be better? Or is your preference Farage?
Maybe a coalition of Greens & Lub Dems. I suspect Lib Dems would bring the economic sanity to it which Greens are not so aware of and Greens a bit or ideology and broad thinking focusing on the needs of society rather than profits for the wealthy few.

Might not be a disaster but Badenoch, Starmer or Faragé is/would be.

Ian
 
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briantrumpet

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Power battles. I think Starmer has been persuaded by McSweeney to forget why people voted him in.

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Pblakeney

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Maybe a coalition of Greens & Lub Dems. I suspect Lib Dems would bring the economic sanity to it which Greens are not so aware of and Greens a bit or ideology and broad thinking focusing on the needs of society rather than profits for the wealthy few.

Might not be a disaster but Badenoch, Starmer or Faragé is/would be.

Ian

Ah, the unicorn vote.
I'm not saying that you are wrong in theory, just that it ain't gonna exist.
 

icowden

Shaman
It's not just "populists" that make false promises. Our current PM achieved power through what it would be generous to describe as a campaign of shameless and cynical fraud.
Eh? How do you work that out? Starmer barely committed to anything and was elected by default due to people deserting the Tories in droves. Look at the vote share. People didn't vote *for* Labour, they voted *against* Tories. The net effect thanks to our crap FPTP system is Labour got a landslide.
 
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