Starmer's vision quest

[Shortfall]

I just don't get it. I think we should give Angela Rayner or Jess Philips a go.

I mean if you think Starmer is bad then knock yourself out but he prepared to be bitterly disappointed. The nearest analogy I can think of is," I'm not enjoying this dose of crabs, so I'm going to catch herpes and gonorrhea instead, how bad can they be? "

 

[First Aspect]

Ditto. Still content with that choice, even if Starmer is turning out a bit shït while chasing the Reform vote.

Me too.

Thinking about why so many people vote for impossible then get angry. And I think the tax promises are a good example.

If you listen to one sided media then you aren't going to have considered the counter arguments that Jeremy Hunt was making clear at the time. Hypocrisy yes, but true nonetheless. And discussed also by lots of the mainstream media.

I understood this and voted on balance (by balance, I mean get rid of this shambles). I am more or less getting what I'd expected, with added international affairs competence.

But if you only get your "news" from echo chambers, surely reality will be a let down.

 

[Pross]

I mean if you think Starmer is bad then knock yourself out but he prepared to be bitterly disappointed. The nearest analogy I can think of is," I'm not enjoying this dose of crabs, so I'm going to catch herpes and gonorrhea instead, how bad can they be? "

So do you think the leader of the 6th form debating society, Badenoch, would be better? Or is your preference Farage?

 

[Psamathe]

So do you think the leader of the 6th form debating society, Badenoch, would be better? Or is your preference Farage?

Maybe a coalition of Greens & Lub Dems. I suspect Lib Dems would bring the economic sanity to it which Greens are not so aware of and Greens a bit or ideology and broad thinking focusing on the needs of society rather than profits for the wealthy few.

Might not be a disaster but Badenoch, Starmer or Faragé is/would be.

Ian

 

[briantrumpet]

Power battles. I think Starmer has been persuaded by McSweeney to forget why people voted him in.

 

[Pblakeney]

Maybe a coalition of Greens & Lub Dems. I suspect Lib Dems would bring the economic sanity to it which Greens are not so aware of and Greens a bit or ideology and broad thinking focusing on the needs of society rather than profits for the wealthy few.

Might not be a disaster but Badenoch, Starmer or Faragé is/would be.

Ian

Ah, the unicorn vote.
I'm not saying that you are wrong in theory, just that it ain't gonna exist.

 

[theclaud]

The SNP is easy. They say we (at the time) would be better off independent.

Opinions that differ from yours are not, by definition, lies. HTH.

 

[icowden]

It's not just "populists" that make false promises. Our current PM achieved power through what it would be generous to describe as a campaign of shameless and cynical fraud.

Eh? How do you work that out? Starmer barely committed to anything and was elected by default due to people deserting the Tories in droves. Look at the vote share. People didn't vote *for* Labour, they voted *against* Tories. The net effect thanks to our crap FPTP system is Labour got a landslide.

 

[Shortfall]

Maybe a coalition of Greens & Lub Dems. I suspect Lib Dems would bring the economic sanity to it which Greens are not so aware of and Greens a bit or ideology and broad thinking focusing on the needs of society rather than profits for the wealthy few.

Might not be a disaster but Badenoch, Starmer or Faragé is/would be.

Ian

The choice we had at the last election was Sunak or Starmer. Whilst accepting all the dreadful things that happened under 15 years of the Conservatives, I think a Sunak led Tory government would have been less bad than what we now have. I don't even want to imagine how awful it will be with either Rayner or Phillips as Prime Minister but we're probably going to find out quite soon.

 

[CXRAndy]

Rayner is dumb, Philips is vindictive dangerous

 

[CXRAndy]

We didn't even see the solution under our own noses


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[CXRAndy]

The handbrake turn is nearly upon us

'Starmer prepared to water down welfare reforms'

 

[CXRAndy]

The Chagossians going to the high court for judicial review of Starmers pay to give away deal.

Currently a poll indicates 94% of British dont want the Chagos surrender

Casts dark clouds over starmers credentials as human rights advocate

 

[First Aspect]

Opinions that differ from yours are not, by definition, lies. HTH.

I gave quite a few examples, many of which, it transpires, contradict the advice they were getting from their own research.

Doing research to make an economic case then leaving out all of the bad stuff and replacing it with other things that seem more or less the opposite... Well that's a lie isn't it.

 

[Pross]

The choice we had at the last election was Sunak or Starmer. Whilst accepting all the dreadful things that happened under 15 years of the Conservatives, I think a Sunak led Tory government would have been less bad than what we now have. I don't even want to imagine how awful it will be with either Rayner or Phillips as Prime Minister but we're probably going to find out quite soon.

We had a Sunak 'led' government before the election - it was a total binfire