Starmer's vision quest

[spen666]

View: https://x.com/DailyMail/status/1962335768380162123?t=6OlLzDJd10Ggiu07P-bpaw&s=19

That "story" in the Daily Mail is interesting - at no point in the story can I see the actual village identified.
also before it was edited , it referred at one point to it being in Suffolk, and elsewhere in same article to it being in Norfolk.

I am always sceptical of any story or claim from any source ( or side of political divide) that is so light on factual issues that it becomes virtually impossible to check for yourself

 

[Ian H]

That "story" in the Daily Mail is interesting - at no point in the story can I see the actual village identified.
also before it was edited , it referred at one point to it being in Suffolk, and elsewhere in same article to it being in Norfolk.

I am always sceptical of any story or claim from any source ( or side of political divide) that is so light on factual issues that it becomes virtually impossible to check for yourself

From the article: It is believed that only one family has moved into the townhouses so far, and that they arrived by a legal route, not on a small boat.

Other sources point out that leasing housing is much cheaper than using hotels.

 

[Psamathe]

UK becomes the US?

Motorcyclist on shopping trip arrested amid Labour’s crackdown on undocumented migrants
A motorcycle rider out on a shopping trip was arrested and detained for a month as part of a high-profile government crackdown on undocumented migrants working for food delivery apps.

Fernando Fontoura, 33, who moved from Portugal to the UK when he was 12, was arrested by immigration enforcement officers after he parked his motorbike near a grocery store in south-east London on 22 July. He was taken to a detention centre near Gatwick airport where he was held for 29 days.

“I’ve been here [in the UK] for 21 years. It is completely unfair,” he said. “[The Home Office] says I have no lawful basis to be in the UK. But my family is here. My fiancee is here. I’ve been paying taxes here for over 10 years. I studied here. I did my GCSEs and NVQs here. I received my insurance number at the age of 16.”
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The Home Office opposed bail for Fontoura, arguing there was no evidence to support his claim that he entered the UK in 2004 with his family. But the Guardian has seen official documents demonstrating Fontoura grew up in the UK, including a letter from his secondary school in Stockwell, south London, which he attended from 2005 to 2008.

Other documents show HMRC issued him with a national insurance number in 2009, and he worked in an electronics store in Croydon in 2015. A 2006 Department for Work and Pensions document states his father came to the UK with his wife and children, including Fontoura, in 2004.

Maybe very siginificant aspect to what's happening raised in the report "The policy, which has been criticised by refugee charities, is a key part of the government’s faltering strategy to hold back the advance of Reform UK."

 

[spen666]

UK becomes the US?

Maybe very siginificant aspect to what's happening raised in the report "The policy, which has been criticised by refugee charities, is a key part of the government’s faltering strategy to hold back the advance of Reform UK."

I was interested in why the term motorcyclist is in headline. Its irrelevant to the story.

 

[Xipe Totec]

I was interested in why the term motorcyclist is in headline. Its irrelevant to the story.

There's a wee clue in the first line.

A motorcycle rider out on a shopping trip was arrested and detained for a month as part of a high-profile government crackdown on undocumented migrants working for food delivery apps.

I don't think it's a wild inference to assume that he was targeted because food delivery workers frequently tend to use small capacity motorcycles or electric bikes. Therefore a 'foreign' on a motorbike is a suspect.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Bigger appendages for all? How can Starmer compete with that?
BBC News - Zack Polanski elected leader of the Green Party
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0d0d08jnjo

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

That "story" in the Daily Mail is interesting - at no point in the story can I see the actual village identified.
also before it was edited , it referred at one point to it being in Suffolk, and elsewhere in same article to it being in Norfolk.

I am always sceptical of any story or claim from any source ( or side of political divide) that is so light on factual issues that it becomes virtually impossible to check for yourself

It is likely factually correct, but it is the presentation of it which is designed to inflame tensions. Asylum Seekers have a legal right to be housed whilst their application is processed, they cannot work, so by definition they would be living "rent free" in any property. The property has allegedly been let by Serco who do hold contracts to house Asylum Seekers, what accommodation they provide is nothing to do with the Asylum Seeker.

As mentioned previously on various threads, having a discussion about previous govts winding down the number of Asylum processing agents in an attempt to deter people is the far bigger issue. This has ramped up the application processing times and led to tens of thousands of Asylum Seekers waiting months for a decision, with their required housing costing billions per year.

Having worked on supply chains in other areas with companies including Serco, I can also guarantee they will be generating very healthy profit off the back of any public contracts they hold, which will be going into the pockets of shareholders and senior management.

 

[Dorset Boy]

Bond markets remaining very twitchy about Rachel from Accounts as the 30 year gilt rate hits a 27 year high

 

[spen666]

There's a wee clue in the first line.



I don't think it's a wild inference to assume that he was targeted because food delivery workers frequently tend to use small capacity motorcycles or electric bikes. Therefore a 'foreign' on a motorbike is a suspect.

So, is it the case he wouldn't have been arrested if delivering using a pedal cycle or a car?

The fact he was a motorcyclist is irrelevant. Its the fact he was working as a delivery person for uber/ just eat etc.

 

[Bromptonaut]

So, is it the case he wouldn't have been arrested if delivering using a pedal cycle or a car?

The fact he was a motorcyclist is irrelevant. Its the fact he was working as a delivery person for uber/ just eat etc.

Was the motorcycle legal as in type approved, registered and insured?

 

[Psamathe]

Bond markets remaining very twitchy about Rachel from Accounts as the 30 year gilt rate hits a 27 year high

Starmer's latest (of many) staff re-shuffle has increased his control of and monitoring of the Treasury. Interesting that he's made the move shortly before the budget (with time to change what might be in the plans).

 

[CXRAndy]

Bond markets remaining very twitchy about Rachel from Accounts as the 30 year gilt rate hits a 27 year high

All is forgiven Lizzie.

Her budget was at least for deregulation and growth

At least half the spike in guilts caused by the bank of England sell off

 

[Bromptonaut]

So, is it the case he wouldn't have been arrested if delivering using a pedal cycle or a car?

The fact he was a motorcyclist is irrelevant. Its the fact he was working as a delivery person for uber/ just eat etc.

Having read the whole article he appears to have come to the UK as a minor and worked since attaining his majority.

On the face of it he would be eligible for Settled Status under the post Brexit arrangements but didn't realise he needed to apply.

He's not alone.

Anybody, like myself, providing benefit advice comes across people who fell through the EU Settlement Scheme's slats in one way or another on a fairly regular basis.

 

[spen666]

James O'Brien this morning on LBC was talking about Starmer's policy changes & reshuffle and asked who it was Starmer was trying to appease or appeal to - Reform Voters or those rebels in the Labour Party.

It actually struck me that without realising it, O'Brien had hit the nail on the head. Starmer is not leading with a vision, he is spending his time trying to appease too many people.
A good and strong eader sets out their vision and leads the way forward, not spends all their time trying to appease others

 

[BoldonLad]

There's a wee clue in the first line.



I don't think it's a wild inference to assume that he was targeted because food delivery workers frequently tend to use small capacity motorcycles or electric bikes. Therefore a 'foreign' on a motorbike is a suspect.

It is a bizarre story, but, he does not look obviously "foreign" (ie black), plus, if he had motorcycle helmet on, there was was even less of him visible. Without reading the whole article, presumably, he failed to do whatever he was meant to do to retain "right to remain" at Brexit?