Starmer's vision quest

[AndyRM]

Will the Maccabi fans travel if they can't get tickets?

Yep.

 

[AndyRM]

Good question. If they do travel against advice, could the club be sanctioned by UEFA?

Depends what happens.

This could get grim.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Whatever happens will be used as propaganda for one faction or the other.

 

[monkers]

Maybe this is just me, but has anybody else noticed that politicians are increasingly using the phrase ''and this is personal to me'' in order to be more persuasive?

Is it not the privilege of MPs to be elected as the representatives of their constituents?

Is it not the case that those with a personal interest are required to recuse themselves in order to avoid a conflict of interests?

Starmer does have an interest in this. He is married to a Jewish woman. His children being are raised in the Jewish tradition. All of which is obviously fair enough.

Whether he is bringing his home and family life to work or not, the fact that the allegation can be made, should require him to recuse himself from the situation? Otherwise doesn't this open another line of 'they're all in it for their own interests'?

 

[bobzmyunkle]

And on a completely different topic they fail again.
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...t-for-bird-friendly-swift-bricks-in-new-homes

 

[Psamathe]

I heard. Maybe someone should remind him of when israeli fans went on the rampage in Amsterdam.

Apparently not. Israeli team manager (or senior team management) on BBC radio this morning and apparently they are all angels and victims.

The evening before the match, Maccabi Tel Aviv fans were filmed pulling Palestinian flags from houses, making racist anti-Arab chants such as "death to Arabs", assaulting people, and vandalising local property.[8][1][2][9][10][11]