Starmer's vision quest

[Psamathe]

There is some speculation that Rachel From Accounts may have broken the ministerial code with her failure to get a rental license. Sounds quite similar to the recent case of Honest Ange and her stamp duty underpayment....

Maybe Starmer summed-up what he should be doing some time ago when he said "lawmakers can't be lawbreakers".

 

[Pblakeney]

So I don’t think you’re being entirely honest about this. For many union supporters in England, the demand for a UK wide vote on Scotland’s future is an excuse to thwart any possibility of our independence.

I'm not so sure about that. I've heard many say they'd be glad to see the back of the jocks.

 

[Psamathe]

Rachel clearly didn't pick very good agents to use when letting out her home, or sort out the appropriate due dilligence with Southwark Council.
Somewhat embarassing for her and Keir.

But it really is amazing how people who feel they are competent enough to manage the finances of the country are so incompetent and arrogant that they cannot make sure they manage their own.

Each individual is responsible for complying with law/regulations. If I fail to properly declar my financial situation to HMRC for tax I am responsible, not those whose advice I have sought. I am responsible and "they told me so" is irrelevant.

My responsibility to comply irrespective of whose advice I might chose to accept (without checking).

Even more amazing after Rayner that she didn't check her own position.

 

[First Aspect]

Each individual is responsible for complying with law/regulations. If I fail to properly declar my financial situation to HMRC for tax I am responsible, not those whose advice I have sought. I am responsible and "they told me so" is irrelevant.

My responsibility to comply irrespective of whose advice I might chose to accept (without checking).

Even more amazing after Rayner that she didn't check her own position.

You have to wonder why she asked whether she needed a licence, if it is such an obscure local requirement. Or why she didn't Google it. Southwark council have a whole section of the website on this, and the "additional licensing" section covers basically any family home rented to up to 4 people.

It's so simple, in fact, letting agents can normally figure it out, let alone Oxford academics or government ministers.

 

[Xipe Totec]

Given that you've said it won't happen in our lifetimes, we may as well close this one off now.

Quite. Considering this whole sorry mess was a result of me suggesting the next Holyrood election may be the last, because devolution is not to our anointed incoming Right-Wing-God-King's taste - and Captain Contrarian somehow concluding that I meant I thought Scotland would be independent 5 years later, it's all been a waste of largely incoherent words.

And is continuing to be, from your subsequent posts.

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[glasgowcyclist]

I'm not so sure about that. I've heard many say they'd be glad to see the back of the jocks.

Me too.

I’ve also heard others say they’d keep us to spite us. 🤷‍♂️

The point is it should be a decision solely for the nation concerned and no permission should be necessary, otherwise it’s not a union it’s a prison.

 

[First Aspect]

Me too.

I’ve also heard others say they’d keep us to spite us. 🤷‍♂️

The point is it should be a decision solely for the nation concerned and no permission should be necessary, otherwise it’s not a union it’s a prison.

God this is so naive in a quintessentially Scots nationalist sort of a way. Take a look a the constitutions of Canada or the US, or Spain. The reason populist nationalists don't get to unilaterally call votes to change international boundaries I believe it a mutually damaging.process that should not be allowe to happen at he whim of a party in power during a political cycle.

 

[Pblakeney]

God this is so naive in a quintessentially Scots nationalist sort of a way. Take a look a the constitutions of Canada or the US, or Spain. The reason populist nationalists don't get to unilaterally call votes to change international boundaries I believe it a mutually damaging.process that should not be allowe to happen at he whim of a party in power during a political cycle.

I thought it would be easier just to look at the UK constitution. I was wrong.

 

[Stevo 666]

Can you perhaps make up your mind? You wanted a ‘say’ (short of denying permission) in a referendum held in Scotland to decide Scotland’s future. You couldn’t explain how that would manifest itself so have morphed instead into having a vote by England on England’s place in the union.

A vote which you acknowledge wouldn’t need the permission of the Scots, in direct contrast to the position Scotland is in.

Given that England has an electorate roughly ten times that of Scotland, your vote could effectively be a veto on whatever Scots voted for.

So I don’t think you’re being entirely honest about this. For many union supporters in England, the demand for a UK wide vote on Scotland’s future is an excuse to thwart any possibility of our independence.

Would you like to give an answer to the question about the fairness of the one-way permission situation?

If you want to go, you can go as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Stevo 666]

Quite. Considering this whole sorry mess was a result of me suggesting the next Holyrood election may be the last, because devolution is not to our anointed incoming Right-Wing-God-King's taste - and Captain Contrarian somehow concluding that I meant I thought Scotland would be independent 5 years later, it's all been a waste of largely incoherent words.

And is continuing to be, from your subsequent posts.

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I'm sure you'll get another 'once in a generation' referendum. In fact, I hope you do.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

God this is so naive in a quintessentially Scots nationalist sort of a way. Take a look a the constitutions of Canada or the US, or Spain. The reason populist nationalists don't get to unilaterally call votes to change international boundaries I believe it a mutually damaging.process that should not be allowe to happen at he whim of a party in power during a political cycle.

This is the problem with the arrogance of some bitter English folk; Scotland is not a region or exclave of England.

 

[Stevo 666]

Maybe Starmer summed-up what he should be doing some time ago when he said "lawmakers can't be lawbreakers".

Hoisted by their own petard. In echoes of Raynergate, the Reeves camp is now blaming the estate agent for not advising her properly.

 

[Pblakeney]

It's so simple, in fact, letting agents can normally figure it out, let alone Oxford academics or government ministers.

Apparently her specific letting agents were not capable of figuring it out.
Apologies all round in the hope it will just blow over. It won't.

 

[CXRAndy]

This is the problem with the arrogance of some bitter English folk; Scotland is not a region or exclave of England.

How can the English be bitter, especially those who want you to go?

 

[First Aspect]

I thought it would be easier just to look at the UK constitution. I was wrong.

Which is only unreasonable to Scottish nationalists.