First Aspect
Veteran
It is just bloody shambolic. It could be a silver lining though, because if she does quit it is an opportunity to appoint someone who inspires a bit more confidence. Reeves just doesn't.
Starmer's vision quest
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It is just bloody shambolic. It could be a silver lining though, because if she does quit it is an opportunity to appoint someone who inspires a bit more confidence. Reeves just doesn't.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
I expect political opponents to have a go, that’s politics. But it really is amazing how people who feel they are competent enough to manage the finances of the country are so incompetent and arrogant that they cannot make sure they manage their own. Given the way the media are all over politicians’ private lives and finances and the microscope they are under you would think they double and triple check the rules.
After the Rayner debacle I thought that all politicians including Reeves, who were moving properties, including letting, would have checked before the Mail did.
Stevo 666
Veteran
This seems to predate the Rayner episode if she rented her house soon after moving into number 11, but your point still stands.
It also casts doubt on her suitability to manage the nation's finances. That, and her performance in the job over the last 15 months.
Stevo 666
Veteran
She definitely doesn't. However I also have no confidence that anyone who could succeed her will be any better.
CXRAndy
Shaman
Starmer literally cannot afford to sack her-his political life depends on it.
We all know she is a shower of shat
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
Yes dear, of course they are. No one is suggesting otherwise. Just not quite in the way Mr Aspect was presenting them.
You're welcome try & join in - but do try to keep up.
Stevo 666
Veteran
Given that you've said it won't happen in our lifetimes, we may as well close this one off now.
CXRAndy
Shaman
Who , I dont know who would be remotely qualified to be Chancellor in the Labour party?
Brian is a big leftie fan, maybe he could suggest a few proper economists, not HR Halifax jobbies
Stevo 666
Veteran
I did a quick Google on which Labour MPs are qualified economists. It came up with Rachel Reeves, Torsten Bell and Ed Miliband 😱
We're doomed, I tell you...
glasgowcyclist
Veteran
So it appears you do want more than a say, you want a vote, which would effectively be a veto.
Does it strike you as fair treatment of a partner in this union that only one member can seek self-determination without the permission of the other?
CXRAndy
Shaman
CXRAndy
Shaman
Stevo 666
Veteran
Did you read what I posted? It was not about a veto, I posted about us voting to leave you.
Given that the only discussions in recent memory have been about Scotland leaving the UK, your second paragraph above is on point, albeit unintentionally.
Stevo 666
Veteran
glasgowcyclist
Veteran
Can you perhaps make up your mind? You wanted a ‘say’ (short of denying permission) in a referendum held in Scotland to decide Scotland’s future. You couldn’t explain how that would manifest itself so have morphed instead into having a vote by England on England’s place in the union.
A vote which you acknowledge wouldn’t need the permission of the Scots, in direct contrast to the position Scotland is in.
Given that England has an electorate roughly ten times that of Scotland, your vote could effectively be a veto on whatever Scots voted for.
So I don’t think you’re being entirely honest about this. For many union supporters in England, the demand for a UK wide vote on Scotland’s future is an excuse to thwart any possibility of our independence.
Would you like to give an answer to the question about the fairness of the one-way permission situation?
