Starmer's vision quest

[Bromptonaut]

I see Ms Reeves is now arguing for the ending of the 2-child benefit cap. One must assume she has thus lost the Labour Whip as quite a few other Labour MPs have suffered for doing the same. It was arguing for that limit to be removed causing Ms Sultana to lose the Whip and kicked-off the Fruit & Nut Party ...

Sultana and others had the Whip removed becuase they voted on a motion to remove the two child limit. Just arguing for it to go isn't an issue.

It was a piece of performative cruelty by Osborne that serves no proper purpose.

 

[CXRAndy]

Please somebody just oust him


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[briantrumpet]

Yeah, right.

 

[CXRAndy]

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[Dorset Boy]

The latest leaks strongly suggest Rachel from Accounts hasn't got a clue what she's doing. Indicating an income tax rise over the last week or so, and now U-turning at high speed, basically ripping up the whole budget in the process.

 

[Pblakeney]

The latest leaks strongly suggest Rachel from Accounts hasn't got a clue what she's doing. Indicating an income tax rise over the last week or so, and now U-turning at high speed, basically ripping up the whole budget in the process.

Here's a novel idea. Why not wait until we see what is in the budget and react to that?
All this speculation is doing nobody any favours.

 

[Dorset Boy]

Here's a novel idea. Why not wait until we see what is in the budget and react to that?
All this speculation is doing nobody any favours.

How about those in government stop leaking things left right and centre that fuels speculation?
I totally agree that the speculation does no one any favours, but Reeves chose to set the Budget date as late as pheasible, giving an unneccessarily long run in to it, and she and her advisers are the ones to blame for dropping hints and then rowing back.

 

[monkers]

Here's a novel idea. Why not wait until we see what is in the budget and react to that?
All this speculation is doing nobody any favours.

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[Pblakeney]

How about those in government stop leaking things left right and centre that fuels speculation?
I totally agree that the speculation does no one any favours, but Reeves chose to set the Budget date as late as pheasible, giving an unneccessarily long run in to it, and she and her advisers are the ones to blame for dropping hints and then rowing back.

People may choose to release things, I choose to ignore them.
As a tangent, ignoring the news as a whole is the first step towards a more happy life.

 

[First Aspect]

Here's a novel idea. Why not wait until we see what is in the budget and react to that?
All this speculation is doing nobody any favours.

The doom leaking is damaging the ecomomy and making it even worse. They did this last year so businesses and individuals sat on their hands for three months, worsening all of the data the budget relied on, and they've done the exact same thing this year.

If she changes a myriad of other taxes, I suspect that will be worse. Particularly another Labour raid on pensions, because she may as well raise income tax for a lot of people.

She just needs plans to reduce non-capital spending. It really is that simple, and going back to how generous the UK welfare state was in 2010 whist maintaining longer term investment is not austerity.

They are weighing 400 or so grumpy backbenchers against absolutely everyone else in the UK.

 

[secretsqirrel]

How about those in government stop leaking things left right and centre that fuels speculation?
I totally agree that the speculation does no one any favours, but Reeves chose to set the Budget date as late as pheasible, giving an unneccessarily long run in to it, and she and her advisers are the ones to blame for dropping hints and then rowing back.

How can you tell a government leak from press scare-mongering?

 

[briantrumpet]

How about those in government stop leaking things left right and centre that fuels speculation?
I totally agree that the speculation does no one any favours, but Reeves chose to set the Budget date as late as pheasible, giving an unneccessarily long run in to it, and she and her advisers are the ones to blame for dropping hints and then rowing back.

It has all the hallmarks of McSweeney doing polling and forgetting that they are historically unpopular but still with a large enough majority to do stuff that's necessary. TBH, it would be hard for them to sink much further in the polls, so they ought to try governing on principles & pragmatism rather than polling.

 

[Beebo]

Bloody hell.
This Hokey Cokey budget rumour mill is driving the country into a recession.
Since August they have just been chucking mud at the wall to see what sticks.
Get ready for complicated tweaks to loads of different taxes. Many with unintended consequences. For instance I suspect my salary sacrifice pension arrangement will go.
This will penalise pension savings.

 

[Dorset Boy]

The reality is that in order to close their black hole (which they have managed to grow since being in power), they have to raise revenue from the big three taxes - Income Tax, Corporation Tax and National Insurance.
The increase in employer NI in the last Budget has seriously damaged the economy by making it a lot more expensive to employ people, particularly part timers and lower earners.
Reeves needs to work out how to stimulate growth as a priority, because anything just puts us further into the 'death spiral' of less growth, higher taxes, less growth, even higher taxes.

 

[secretsqirrel]

It has all the hallmarks of McSweeney doing polling and forgetting that they are historically unpopular but still with a large enough majority to do stuff that's necessary. TBH, it would be hard for them to sink much further in the polls, so they ought to try governing on principles & pragmatism rather than polling.

Listening to a Newscast interview with former advisor Tom Baldwin, who is of the opinion that McSweeney is a good talented guy. The problem he sees is that he just needs to make sure as Chief of Staff that everybody does the job they have been given and stop fighting ‘perception’, which is disrupting the serious work of government.

e.g, All this stuff about Wes Streeting yesterday, which should have been a day for the NHS, should have been dealt with a short dismissive statement. Instead it was taken up with hand wringing, apologies and fighting noise.