Starmer's vision quest

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AndyRM

Elder Goth
Scotch is fine. Not sure I've ever heard it used by a Scot or in Scotland though, unless as a touristy thing.
 

Psamathe

Senior Member
Depends what you class as environmental protections. The neutrient neutrality farce has delayed thousands of planned new homes.
No reason for it to delay anything as mitigations for that control are very very straightforward. Calculations straightforward. Just that many Planning Applications fail to even submit the data (which takes no time to prepare).

And it is a very important protection. UK is one on the worst countries in the world for biodiversity loss yet our politicians seen hell bent on removing what few protections remain.

Ian
 

Pross

Member
No reason for it to delay anything as mitigations for that control are very very straightforward. Calculations straightforward. Just that many Planning Applications fail to even submit the data (which takes no time to prepare).

And it is a very important protection. UK is one on the worst countries in the world for biodiversity loss yet our politicians seen hell bent on removing what few protections remain.

Ian

Not really, 74 planning authorities put a pause on things whilst the issue was being addressed. That's a lot of housing schemes being delayed. I don't disagree that it's a important protection, the problem is that it is that the main cause of pollution from nitrates is arising from farming practices with toilets from new housing being a relatively tiny contributor.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
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There will be no reciprocal take up from British businesses going to India.

Nobody from the UK will want to go work and live in India as an employee

The company I used to work for, had UK employees working in India. Although I never worked in India, I did work in some less than ideal places. Like many things in life, in my view, it was/is a balance between degree of discomfort and financial reward.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
There will be no reciprocal take up from British businesses going to India.

Nobody from the UK will want to go work and live in India as an employee

There will not be the same take up in numbers, not hundred of thousands turning up, which will happen in the UK

Is that the screech of goalposts moving I hear? 😂
 
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Psamathe

Senior Member
Not really, 74 planning authorities put a pause on things whilst the issue was being addressed. That's a lot of housing schemes being delayed.
Area where I live I pay close attention to Planning Applications and comment on a fair number that don't directly impact me. It's an endless stream of applications for new properties with no nutrient neutrality calculation so planners respond with it meeds tbe calculations/mitigation, then there is the delay 'cos the applicant drags their feet over something that takes no time. Round me it's not the nutrient neutrality that causes the delay it's the applicants.

Ian
 

Psamathe

Senior Member
Again it seems starmer/Labour blaming environmental protections for hindering building and growth are found baseless, found baseless by the Government itself.

Isn't stoppin g them sweeping away environmental protections and their "Nature Recovery Fund (NRF)" highlights their lack of understanding and is beyond a joke - there is a reason some species are only in certain localities and spending the fund eg in a different county won't help those species being severly impacted.

Yet another case of Starmer/Labour failing.

Ian

UK government admits almost no evidence nature protections block development
Whitehall analysis provides no data or research to support the government argument that environmental legislation holds up building
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...evidence-nature-protections-block-development
Glad that the report is prominent enough that others are seeing it ie not just my focus on such issues.

Fot me two concerning aspects:
1. That Starmer/Labour are lying about issues and basing their legislative changes on unresearched twaddle. Reason is probably because they are paying all their attention on professional lobbyists and vested interests.

2. That they are sweeping away environmental protections for no reason and that will further devastate biodiversity. And UK is already a disaster when it comes to biodiversity loss, in the worse 10% of all the world.

Ian
 

briantrumpet

Well-Known Member
If Starmer's giving Glasman any say, then no wonder Labour's lost.

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