Starmer's vision quest

[BoldonLad]

The major problem is a lack of social housing.

Haven't come across any figures, but, in my experience, homelessness is often a bit more complex than lack of a physical property, although, I am sure there are plenty of instances where that IS the problem.

 

[Xipe Totec]

Pretty much but more joke. I just think they’re full of themselves (but then I think the same of most prog rock, especially ELO). Didn’t think I’d need to resort to emojis to make it obvious

Sorry - didn't pick up on the irony!

I sort of think the best prog is quite self-aware, and it's interesting how many musicians who make incredibly serious, self-indulgent & bombastic music don't tend to be remotely serious people. That's my excuse, anyway. To carry on dragging the thread off-topic, I'd never really considered ELO to be prog - but interestingly the very first album I became utterly obsessed with as a kid was New World Record. Will have to re-visit it, having not played it for easily 40 years.

Anyway - I bet Starmer likes really shite music, assuming he likes music at all.

 

[Pblakeney]

Sorry - didn't pick up on the irony!

I sort of think the best prog is quite self-aware, and it's interesting how many musicians who make incredibly serious, self-indulgent & bombastic music don't tend to be remotely serious people. That's my excuse, anyway. To carry on dragging the thread off-topic, I'd never really considered ELO to be prog - but interestingly the very first album I became utterly obsessed with as a kid was New World Record. Will have to re-visit it, having not played it for easily 40 years.

Anyway - I bet Starmer likes really shite music, assuming he likes music at all.

I'm thinking Celine Dion.

 

[briantrumpet]

Sorry - didn't pick up on the irony!

I sort of think the best prog is quite self-aware, and it's interesting how many musicians who make incredibly serious, self-indulgent & bombastic music don't tend to be remotely serious people. That's my excuse, anyway. To carry on dragging the thread off-topic, I'd never really considered ELO to be prog - but interestingly the very first album I became utterly obsessed with as a kid was New World Record. Will have to re-visit it, having not played it for easily 40 years.

Anyway - I bet Starmer likes really shite music, assuming he likes music at all.

If you call Beethoven really shite, yup. I'm not a great fan, I must admit, though "really shite" maybe is putting it too strongly.

https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/sir-keir-starmer-flute-recorder-guildhall-scholar/

Before he became a human rights lawyer – or the Prime Minister – it seems Sir Keir Starmer was something of a musical prodigy. In his early years he played the flute, piano, recorder and violin, and was once a young scholar at the Guildhall School of Music in London.


The former barrister, who was elected to succeed Rishi Sunak as Prime Minister this July, spoke about his early musical years in an interview with On The Hill magazine, in answer to a question about his passions (which, he says, are “music, classical music”).

What kind of music, Starmer, Keir Starmer? “Beethoven piano sonatas”, he replies, pausing to add, “actually all things Beethoven.”

 

[Xipe Totec]

#CanOfWorms

 

[briantrumpet]

#CanOfWorms

Doubt if he follows that band either.

 

[Pross]

I'm thinking Celine Dion.

I thought it was famously Taylor Swift or was that another politician that got stick for taking free tickets to see her?

 

[Pross]

Sorry - didn't pick up on the irony!

I sort of think the best prog is quite self-aware, and it's interesting how many musicians who make incredibly serious, self-indulgent & bombastic music don't tend to be remotely serious people. That's my excuse, anyway. To carry on dragging the thread off-topic, I'd never really considered ELO to be prog - but interestingly the very first album I became utterly obsessed with as a kid was New World Record. Will have to re-visit it, having not played it for easily 40 years.

Anyway - I bet Starmer likes really shite music, assuming he likes music at all.

I just find them similar to all those 'edgy' left-wing comedians in the 80s "look at how radical and controversial I'm being" when it's all really just very obvious anti-establishment type stuff that you would have heard in the Student Union back then.

 

[Pblakeney]

I thought it was famously Taylor Swift or was that another politician that got stick for taking free tickets to see her?

Taking a freebie doesn't necessarily make them a favourite.
In fact, going for free is probably the best way to see less favoured acts. 😉

 

[CXRAndy]

Expect

 

[Pross]

The lurch towards Reform territory seems to have taken another step with reallocating billions from the overseas aid budget to fund the increase in defence budget. It feels a bit short sighted when overseas aid can help with soft power and therefore help security.

 

[Psamathe]

UK Gov. determined to clutch its ankles and be totally obsequious. Stupidity beyond belief. You don't get anywhere feeding an alcoholic more booze.

UK to host Donald Trump for full state visit this year, says Buckingham Palace
A Buckingham Palace aide said: “His Majesty has known President Trump for many years and looks forward to hosting him and the first lady later this year.”
...
The Times reported that Starmer had gone against the wishes of Charles by bringing Trump’s state visit forward despite the monarch’s concerns over threats to Canada. It reported that the prime minister had gone against the original proposal for an earlier informal visit and expedited a full “bells and whistles” visit in an attempt to capitalise on the president’s fascination with the royal family.

Why can't Starmer grow a pair and make some sort of stance. All Starmer seems able to push is taking much needed support from tyhe disabled and cutting Overseas Aid.

I despair about our politicians/politicians.

Ian

 

[theclaud]

I've not been around here for a while, and if I click on the usual "catch up from where I left" link, I find I have over a hundred more pages to read. There are limits to my dedication. It's Starmer's fault of course - as someone put it on Twitter, "Everyone hates him for different reasons, and they all have a point." But I'm looking for a bit of in-forum guidance as to what I've missed, on this thread or elsewhere. Summarize and/or point me to some highlights?

Oh, and hello.

 

[CXRAndy]

He could save £7-10 billion by stop paying for hotels for illegal immigration

 

[Shortfall]

I've not been around here for a while, and if I click on the usual "catch up from where I left" link, I find I have over a hundred more pages to read. There are limits to my dedication. It's Starmer's fault of course - as someone put it on Twitter, "Everyone hates him for different reasons, and they all have a point." But I'm looking for a bit of in-forum guidance as to what I've missed, on this thread or elsewhere. Summarize and/or point me to some highlights?

Oh, and hello.

Lots of people who didn't like the "Evil Tories" thought it couldn't get any worse under Labour. And then it did. A lot worse. They were warned.