Starmer's vision quest

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Psamathe

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Assuming it's an authorised biography that's pretty much what I would expect. They claim 'warts and all' but usually the subject has enough control that you only see the warts they want and the genital version stays well hidden.
It's not an "authorised" biography.

The author recently did an interview with Starmer (widely reported) where Starmer said he regrets his "Island of Strangers" speech and Baldwin (author under discussion) double checked Starmer was happy about that being revealed implication that Starmer was editing his own "what's released" despite author claiming Starmer couldn't). To me that's not the interviewer being independent but rather acting as a spokesperson for Starmer.

Ian
 
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matticus

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Starmer said he regrets his "Island of Strangers" speech

Shame you don't have enough humanity to mention the other events reported in the book from that day:

"The attack saw the Prime Minister's former private home set alight in the early hours of May 12, the day after a flat he had previously lived in and a car he had sold to a neighbour both caught fire.

Starmer had let the £2million north London property to his sister-in-law for a peppercorn rent when he moved into Number 10.

And now he says that had she been asleep she could have been killed in her bed.

'She happened to still be awake,' he told The Observer. 'So she heard the noise and got the fire brigade. But it could have been a different story.'

Three men have been charged with the alleged arson campaign and remanded in custody, due to stand trial next year.

The horror came just hours before he gave a press conference on uncontrolled immigration, which he has since said he 'deeply regrets'.

He said he and wife Lady Victoria had been 'really shaken up' before he warned mass immigration risks turning Britain into an 'island of strangers', in a talk that was seen to be marking a tough new approach to combat the political threat posed by Reform.
The alleged arson campaign included three fires across London last month, targeting addresses connected to Prime Minister Sir Keir.

In the early hours of May 12, a fire was started at a Kentish Town property where Sir Keir had lived with his family.

Just four days earlier, on May 8, a Toyota Rav 4, which had once belonged to Sir Keir before he sold it to a neighbour, was torched on the same street.

But he told the newspaper: 'It's fair to say I wasn't in the best state to make a big speech… I was really, really worried. I almost said: 'I won't do the bloody press conference.'

'Vic was really shaken up as, in truth, was I. It was just a case of reading the words out and getting through it somehow… so I could get back to them.'

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Psamathe

Über Member
Starmer said he regrets his "Island of Strangers" speec
Shame you don't have enough humanity to mention the other events reported in the book from that day:
Because, had you quoted the rest of my post, it was nothing to do with the expression but rather the editorial control over the interview and the independence of the interviewer. The context was nothing to do with my views of the comment so you are quoting completely out of context, changing the meaning of my post by very limited extract from my post.

But thank you for the insult about my humanity in relation to an aspect I was not raising or commenting on ...

Ian
 

Stevo 666

Senior Member
I haven't said it isn't correct. I've said the report is statistically non existent and the reported increase likely due to the external factor of both Greece and Portugal applying much more severe restrictions on their golden visa policy.

You don't get to "give me another go" after wanging on about the Brexit report for days. It's almost as if you don't like it when people pick holes in your argument.

Face it. Your article is a pointless load of shoot .

Try harder next time.

No counter evidence then.
 

Stevo 666

Senior Member
As long as you appreciate that your view of the SNP - every piece of information you have ever received - comes to you via UK based media which, regardless of political orientation, diametrically opposes the fundamental reason for the party existing.

I think very few people outside of Scotland realise that, despite it being an inarguable fact when you think it through.

So where should we get unbiased views of the SNP? From their website?
 

First Aspect

Senior Member
All, the bad press means the press are biased gambit. A favourite of the SNP and populist parties around the world.

The SNP had a stranglehold on the press in Scotland for a long time, and Nicola Turgid had her own free and unchallenged BBC sponsored party political broadcast every day for 18 months during COVID.

The reason the SNP get bad press is because they are shoot. It's that simple.
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
So where should we get unbiased views of the SNP? From their website?

If you don't live in Scotland it's of little consequence where you obtain your information, or whether or not it's reliable.

Also applies to any Britnat former residents who detested the place & couldn't scuttle back to the comforting familiarity of ToryLand quick enough. :smile:
 

First Aspect

Senior Member
If you don't live in Scotland it's of little consequence where you obtain your information, or whether or not it's reliable.

Also applies to any Britnat former residents who detested the place & couldn't scuttle back to the comforting familiarity of ToryLand quick enough. :smile:

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I loved a lot about Scotland. May well move back when the people i moved down for pass away.

Hated the SNPs trinket driven "no ma foult" politics.

You are confusing the SNP with Scotland. It's a mistake a lot of the tub thumpers up there make.
 

icowden

Shaman
No counter evidence then.

As I said, you can't counter evidence if there is no evidence. Go back to your comics.
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
You are confusing the SNP with Scotland. It's a mistake a lot of the tub thumpers up there make.

You presume a great deal. The SNP, at a point before the UK government blocked every viable, legitimate route & began its slow rollback of devolution, represented the only viable conduit for Scotland to achieve independence. Now, if you like a modicum of humanity with your politics, they're just a better option than Labour, Reform, what's left of the Tories and whatever the hell the LibDems are meant to be.

In an independent Scotland I'd probably vote Green. But that won't happen in my lifetime, if at all.
 
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Pblakeney

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You presume a great deal. The SNP, at a point before the UK government blocked every viable, legitimate route & began its slow rollback of devolution, represented the only viable conduit for Scotland to achieve independence. Now, if you like a modicum of humanity with your politics, they're just a better option than Labour, Reform, what's left of the Tories and whatever the hell the LibDems are meant to be.

In an independent Scotland I'd probably vote Green. But that won't happen in my lifetime, if at all.

I pointed out on BR that while SNP supporters want independence, the SNP do not.
“Utterly stupid!” I hear you cry, but independence for Scotland would be the end of the SNP as a party. Your post indicates as much.
 

CXRAndy

Guru
You presume a great deal. The SNP, at a point before the UK government blocked every viable, legitimate route & began its slow rollback of devolution, represented the only viable conduit for Scotland to achieve independence. Now, if you like a modicum of humanity with your politics, they're just a better option than Labour, Reform, what's left of the Tories and whatever the hell the LibDems are meant to be.

In an independent Scotland I'd probably vote Green. But that won't happen in my lifetime, if at all.

They have failed on so many initiatives
 
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