Starmer's vision quest

[CXRAndy]

Anyone who thinks there is no chance need only look back 12 months when suggesting Trump would win was just silly

You were deluded, Americans wanted change, Biden was flooding USA with illegals. Biden said its really difficult to control.

Turns out, all they needed was Trump, the US voted him in

 

[cookiemonster]

Capitalism isn't the problem it's socialism, let everyone come, increase tax burden, lower wages, depression through constantly working to feed the system, mean people are unhappy, dont settle in long term relationships to build families.

Increased tax burden on those who can pay so that investment can be made into health services, infrastructure and education, to name but 3, that benefits the whole country. Depression while working to feed the system is an apt description of the what is happening now. People with 2 jobs, working all the hours they can yet still need food banks. Mean people are unhappy. Again, like now. Don't settle in long term relationships to build families?. Again, like now and one example I gave above.

Your examples are pretty poor. They've just described the issues I mentioned.

 

[cookiemonster]

Avoiding tax, doesn't mean the person or company doesn't invest in local area. It means they dont waste their earnings letting spend thrift government's piss it away

Avoiding tax means less money for education, health, social care, infrastructure.

We should just allow billionaires to piss it away on yachts and private planes and pay less tax than their domestic servants?

 

[CXRAndy]

If governments were fiscally responsible, then the people feeding the system would be more inclined when they can see tangible benefits for them.

But for decades the UK governments have wasted billions, given away money to projects, countries that frankly don't need it.

Labour have been exposed in this parliament doing just that.

Tensions are now extremely high, because of over 20 years of abuse of the British people.

 

[CXRAndy]

Arthur Laffer the famous economist, says further raids on people and businesses will not increase tax revenues, it will prove selfless defeating.

Uk taxes have reached a critical point

 

[cookiemonster]

Tensions are high due to immigrants being used as an excuse for the failure of an economic system that eats everything in its path. Twenty years of abuse is quite hyperbolic really. You're going to sh*t twiglets when you find out who was in charge for 14 years, pulled us out if the richest and biggest trading block on earth (costing the UK GDP 4% annually) and lost us our AAA+ credit rating as well as increasing debt to 100% of GDP.

 

[cookiemonster]

Arthur Laffer the famous economist, says further raids on people and businesses will not increase tax revenues, it will prove selfless defeating.

Uk taxes have reached a critical point

An economist that worked with Trump?

Very reliable.

 

[CXRAndy]

An economist that worked with Trump?

Very reliable.

See, dismiss the message because of an association with Trump.

Let's see what happens when Rachel raises taxes this winter. We are already at zero growth

 

[cookiemonster]

See, dismiss the message because of an association with Trump.

Let's see what happens when Rachel raises taxes this winter. We are already at zero growth

Anyone associated with Trump should be dismissed. The evidence is for all to see.

 

[cookiemonster]

See, dismiss the message because of an association with Trump.

Let's see what happens when Rachel raises taxes this winter. We are already at zero growth

She wouldn't need to if she rejoined the CU and the SM.

But, as the UK has a government of spineless pussies terrified of making any intelligent decision, they'll make the worst one that doesn't upset Farage or the thick racists that follow him.

 

[Stevo 666]

Weasel words usually are!

You're disappointed that you couldn't do your little leftie 'gotcha'. Better luck next time 😉

 

[Pross]

One or two commentators suggesting the show of strength is as much towards Farage, but it still brings one up short to see so many racists.

It’s not so much seeing so many racists, we always knew they were there. The scary part is they’re happy to be seen there and giving their views to TV crews rather than hiding behind scarves or masks.

 

[spen666]

...
Immigrants are not the issue. People with billion dollar portfolios are. Start blaming multi-nationals, not immigrants.

Immigrants may not be your issue
People with billion dollar portfolios may be your issue.



It's is arrogant and out of touch for you to tell others what their issues are or are not.


Telling people what their issues are or are not will not persuade anyone you are right.

 

[Stevo 666]

I guess this could be relevant for people living in Hong Kong

 

[CXRAndy]

UK has a government

That is mandated to do what the British public want.

They wanted to leave the EU
The government did, but half heartedly, UK public not happy.

The Government has allowed uncontrolled migration to flood into the UK, causing multiple problems. The British public want to deport all those who are here illegally, over stayed visas , free loaders etc.

The UK public want a government that puts its people front, centre and first before anyone else.