Starmer's vision quest

[C R]

Starmer shouting 'Antisemitic' again.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ft-ban-maccabi-tel-aviv-fans-aston-villa-game

I heard. Maybe someone should remind him of when israeli fans went on the rampage in Amsterdam.

 

[First Aspect]

This will almost certainly boil down to the costs Aston Villa would need to pay to satisfy West Midlands Police's demands.

Throwing accusations of anti-Semitism around like confetti cheapens the term.

 

[CXRAndy]

This will almost certainly boil down to the costs Aston Villa would need to pay to satisfy West Midlands Police's demands.

Throwing accusations of anti-Semitism around like confetti cheapens the term.

There's quite a few other accusations bandied around.

Birmingham AG cannot be allowed to dictate this. It also sends a message too, defending the Israeli supporters

 

[secretsqirrel]

I think he said the decision was ‘wrong’. I can’t see him shouting anti-semitic anywhere?

FWIW I think it is a matter for the police, local authorities and the club. Starmer and Badenoch should shut up and let them get on with it.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

I can’t see him shouting anti-semitic anywhere?

Try the Guardian e.g.

The decision prompted widespread condemnation from political leaders. Keir Starmer said:
This is the wrong decision.
We will not tolerate antisemitism on our streets.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Try the Guardian e.g.

The decision prompted widespread condemnation from political leaders. Keir Starmer said:
This is the wrong decision.
We will not tolerate antisemitism on our streets.

I stand corrected.

 

[Pblakeney]

Starmer is at risk of being directly responsible if any trouble occurs.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Starmer is at risk of being directly responsible if any trouble occurs.

Trouble will occur.

No matter what Starmer says.

Anyone who goes there and actually causes trouble will be directly responsible.

 

[Pblakeney]

Trouble will occur.

No matter what Starmer says.

Anyone who goes there and actually causes trouble will be directly responsible.

It is rather difficult for Tel Aviv fans to be involved with trouble if they are not there.

 

[CXRAndy]

I'd expect it to play out like the war. Israel will undoubtedly defend themselves

 

[First Aspect]

It is rather difficult for Tel Aviv fans to be involved with trouble if they are not there.

It isn't really much different from the sort of issues that lead to no away fans for Old Firm games.

The game itself is a problem, absolutely. Even if the fans don't travel, the very presence of an Israeli team will be a lightening rod and I'm sure some students will come out to demonstrate.

Could this be policed though?

 

[Rusty Nails]

It is rather difficult for Tel Aviv fans to be involved with trouble if they are not there.

Football fans can cause trouble whether they are allowed in or not. Or people who just want to use a football match as an opportunity fir trouble.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Football fans can cause trouble whether they are allowed in or not. Or people who just want to use a football match as an opportunity fir trouble.

Will the Maccabi fans travel if they can't get tickets?

 

[C R]

Will the Maccabi fans travel if they can't get tickets?

Good question. If they do travel against advice, could the club be sanctioned by UEFA?

 

[Pblakeney]

Football fans can cause trouble whether they are allowed in or not. Or people who just want to use a football match as an opportunity fir trouble.

True, but by removing the football aspect then they are undeniably just hooligans and can be treated as such.