Starmer's vision quest

[Psamathe]

Well, that may have something to do with the vast majority of those standing for election were from National parties.

When checking results for my region something I've not noticed before

The Dark Blue and enclosed white areas to the east of the region are for candidates from the "Great Yarmouth First Party". Looks like 8 wards (councillors) neighbouring constituencies round Great Yarmouth.

Given the party name must be a local "Party" but they won way ahead of the all the 2nd placed candidates. Maybe there was a specific local issue. Maybe it's common and I've never noticed it elsewhere.

 

[Pross]

Do you blame them for their choices of blame them for believing the lies politicians feed us?

Isn’t it all a bit circular? The lies are because they believe they can’t win if they are honest. Voters need a reality check on expectations rather than encouraging the lies then punishing them not being delivered

 

[Xipe Totec]

Best govt in the last 20 years or another step in the road to Farage as PM?
Reform voters might be thick if they think there's anything in a Farage govt for them, but they aren't so thick that they don't know they're being shat on.

I think that may depend upon who's doing the shitting, and whether said shitter is shitting harder on someone who Reform voters really want to see getting shat on.

Broadly I wouldn't say all Reform voters are howling thickos - some of them are just horrible cunts.

 

[Pblakeney]

Not sure where this daft idea has come from that voters shouldn't be blamed for their choices.

Might just be my perception but the link between actions and consequences seemed to be cut in 2016.

 

[TailWindHome]

When checking results for my region something I've not noticed before
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The Dark Blue and enclosed white areas to the east of the region are for candidates from the "Great Yarmouth First Party". Looks like 8 wards (councillors) neighbouring constituencies round Great Yarmouth.

Given the party name must be a local "Party" but they won way ahead of the all the 2nd placed candidates. Maybe there was a specific local issue. Maybe it's common and I've never noticed it elsewhere.

Rubert Lowe/Restore Britain affiliate

 

[TailWindHome]

 

[briantrumpet]

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But who? Genuinely perplexing. Tories ditto. Why the lack of charismatic alternatives?

 

[Pblakeney]

But who? Genuinely perplexing. Tories ditto. Why the lack of charismatic alternatives?

I don't want charisma. I want a leader with a clear vision.

 

[Pross]

I don't want charisma. I want a leader with a clear vision.

Lack of ‘charisma’ and the hope of a serious leader were Starmer’s selling points. Unfortunately he also lacks a spine.

 

[Pblakeney]

Lack of ‘charisma’ and the hope of a serious leader were Starmer’s selling points. Unfortunately he also lacks a spine.

He has 1 out of 3. 😉

 

[Dorset Boy]

So about 4 pages back I posted.
There have been numerous posts reinforcing the Reform trope, but only one, maybe 2 posts trying to answer the important part of my post - how do the traditional parties regain the trust of the electorate.
Staggering.

 

[Pblakeney]

So about 4 pages back I posted.
There have been numerous posts reinforcing the Reform trope, but only one, maybe 2 posts trying to answer the important part of my post - how do the traditional parties regain the trust of the electorate.
Staggering.

The electorate want unicorns. They are not going to get unicorns. They are going to be disappointed because they are delusional. That’s my opinion.
No party is going to satisfy the electorate.

 

[All uphill]

The electorate want unicorns. They are not going to get unicorns. They are going to be disappointed because they are delusional. That’s my opinion.
No party is going to satisfy the electorate.

I agree; low productivity, high debt servicing costs, housing shortages and an aging population aren't going to be easily resolved.

We have shot ourselves in both feet by leaving a huge trading area and by demonising young, energetic people who want to come here to work hard (and pay tax).

My version of Reform would put all the oldies (apart from me) in camps and replace us with young brown men and women.

 

[TailWindHome]

the electorate.

Those morons?

 

[Rusty Nails]

all the while Mahmood's messaging assuring Reform voters that their xenophobia is justified. He seems to be deaf to any messages being sent by the left-of-centre, utterly taking them for granted.

I seem to remember you referring to Mahmood as he a couple of times.

Hint: She's a she.