Starmer's vision quest

[briantrumpet]

Graun equally keen for the drama.

 

[First Aspect]

Not seeing much love for Burnham yet...

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Bootle.

 

[briantrumpet]

Bootle.

Roger.

 

[Psamathe]

A lot of what might happen depends on if Streeting declares a challenge.

If it’s just Streeting vs Starmer I suspect Starmer might win. Streeting being out would be a step in the right direction as I consider him a dangerous fool.

 

[briantrumpet]

I Amy be cynical, and, it may all be media hype, but... I am beginning to wonder if part of Burnham's enthusiasm to return, is because there are nasties bubbling up in the "Manchester Miracle", and, he wants out before they become visible.

Should we call you 'Amy' from now on? 😜

(Don't spoil it by claiming it was a typo or predictive text, please.)

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Not read about it but is it Burnham trying to oust sitting MPs or just a fantasy narrative concocted by clickbait hacks.
I don‘t really know much about him but from what I’ve seen he seems a pretty straight forward sort. I’m just a bit surprised that he is interested in returning to Westminster, as he seemed very aware of its shortcoming.

I suspect it is a little of both. I would certainly think he is making plans. Whether he has sounded any MP's out is anyone's guess. I have actually met him through an old job. He certainly didn't give off any red flags personality wise, but I am sure like many people in his line of work that there is a fair bit of ego involved.

 

[TailWindHome]

Burnham's route back (banter edition)

1 Standards Committee suspend Farage
2 Recall petition successful
3 Win Clacton By-election

2 birds, 1 stone

 

[briantrumpet]

Burnham's route back (banter edition)

1 Standards Committee suspend Farage
2 Recall petition successful
3 Win Clacton By-election

2 birds, 1 stone

Ha, that'd be just perfect!

 

[Rusty Nails]

I suspect it is a little of both. I would certainly think he is making plans. Whether he has sounded any MP's out is anyone's guess. I have actually met him through an old job. He certainly didn't give off any red flags personality wise, but I am sure like many people in his line of work that there is a fair bit of ego involved.

I doubt that he is going around trying to persuade sitting MPs to stand down, but rather those who would like to see him as leader trying to do the persuading...for the "greater good of the party/country".

 

[BoldonLad]

Should we call you 'Amy' from now on? 😜

(Don't spoil it by claiming it was a typo or predictive text, please.)

Never really been bothered by what people call me, so feel free 😂

Any thoughts on the actual (cynical) view of Burnham's motives?

 

[AuroraSaab]

And the Telegraph begins the onslaught.
At least he's paid his council tax (probably).
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/05/13/burnham-accused-of-burying-skyscraper-loan-report/

The loans thing has been under scrutiny in the Manchester Evening News for quite a while. The Telegraph have just picked it up now Burnham's back in the news.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Never really been bothered by what people call me, so feel free 😂

Any thoughts on the actual (cynical) view of Burnham's motives?

I for one have no idea, but if his motives are ideological then I'd be very worried. I prefer pragmatists than ideologs to be in charge.

 

[briantrumpet]

Never really been bothered by what people call me, so feel free 😂

Any thoughts on the actual (cynical) view of Burnham's motives?

I don't know enough about Manchester's situation to be able to comment. From a long way away it looks big and shiny, and has decently integrated public transport, but I've no idea how sustainable that is or how it's been achieved, Amy. (It's OK, the novelty will wear off. Or I'll just forget it, given my age.)

 

[Rusty Nails]

I don't know enough about Manchester's situation to be able to comment. From a long way away it looks big and shiny, and has decently integrated public transport, but I've no idea how sustainable that is or how it's been achieved, Amy. (It's OK, the novelty will wear off. Or I'll just forget it, given my age.)

You'll forget, Shirley.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Burnham's route back (banter edition)

1 Standards Committee suspend Farage
2 Recall petition successful
3 Win Clacton By-election

2 birds, 1 stone

Yes please