Starmer's vision quest
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theclaud
Reading around the chip
Have you considered employing any critical facilities at all when it comes to Starmer's utterances?
theclaud
Reading around the chip
I think my favourite thing about this clip is Talk TV doing accompanying Mencer's unhinged and irrelevant rant about Corbyn with a little montage of Corbyn effortlessly doing normal, relatable stuff.
multitool
Guest
Ah yes, forgot. The words "the war must stop now" and "we call for an immediate ceasefire" are somehow equivocal, and only the Great Claudine can see through them and ascertain their real meaning.
If you play them backwards it says "Keep on killing, IDF".
theclaud
Reading around the chip
Ah yes, forgot. The words "the war must stop now" and "we call for an immediate ceasefire" are somehow equivocal, and only the Great Claudine can see through them and ascertain their real meaning.
If you play them backwards it says "Keep on killing, IDF".
LOL. At least we have The Great Multitool to funnel the pure stream of meaning direct from the Starmerbrain into our eager faces, untroubled by awkward questions about rhetoric, agency, action, and how we got to a place where a genocidal rogue state has 120 Friends on the opposition benches who are now all a bit upset by the and must plead earnestly with the killers to investigate themselves.
multitool
Guest
And what are those "awkward questions about rhetoric, agency and action"? Are you going to tell us, or was it just glib meaningless bluster on your part.
You think Starmer has agency?????? I've just shât myself laughing. Action? What do you expect the leader of the opposition to do? Threaten Netanyahu with a forensic question?
Literally anything coming from the mouth of an opposition leader in any country WRT to Israel is rhetoric because they have no agency, and therefore there can be no action.
Make your mind up. A while back it was Starmer was facing rebellion from all his MPs because he was only calling for a "pause". Now that he has called for immediate ceasefire and two-state solution you are claiming* those MPs are suddenly Zionists
(see....we can all play the misrepresentation game for dramatic effect
)*So let's hear it then, Oh Grand Cogniscenti! Please tell us what words Starmer should have used and what actions he should have taken.
Tick tock.
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Ian H
Legendary Member
That'll make a mess of your washing machine.
bobzmyunkle
Senior Member
LFI? Let's just dismiss that small elephant with a bit @Toolzie subterfuge shall we?Now that he has called for immediate ceasefire and two-state solution you are claiming* those MPs are suddenly Zionists
View: https://youtu.be/fG3jAmnK0VA?si=delEt2cCmqvs5fTx
multitool
Guest
There's no subterfuge. You just haven't stopped to think, such is your desperation for my attention and a possible cheap point.
I'll re-explain it for you.
The claim, before Christmas, was that Starmer was stomping all over his parliamentary party refusing to allow protest against Israel's war. Now Claudine's claim is that the Labour parliamentary party is in hock to Israel.
It cannot be both.
She even gets the number wrong, assuming that because there are 120 members of LFI that these are MPs (she says "on opposition benches").
There aren't. There are (I believe) 75. Up from around 50 before the latest war.
And no. I won't be spending 17 minutes listening to Aaron Bastani.
bobzmyunkle
Senior Member
So both can't be true?
multitool
Guest
Clearly not.
Whilst on the subject of LFI, do you even bother to read their output, or do you make assumptions?
Their headline is "Working towards a two state solution", ie. diametrically opposed to the actual Israeli government.
And what do they say of the war in Gaza?
This...
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
Today I read Starmer described as "the first person ever to lead a Cult of Personality - without actually having a personality".
Makes you think...
Makes you think...
Bromptonaut
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That exactly. Even if there's 'smoking gun' level evidence that she used the wrong address there's no way, short of her doing so with knowledge and intent or gaining a political advantage, that a prosecution would be in the public interest. CPS guidance is as follows:
“The principal purpose of the relevant legislation is to maintain not only the integrity and probity of the electoral process but public confidence in it. Proceedings for major infringements will normally be in the public interest.
Proceedings for other infringements may not be in the public interest in situations where:
- the offence is of a ‘technical’ nature which does not infringe the spirit of the legislation;
- the offence was committed as a result of a genuine mistake or misunderstanding;
- the offence could not have influenced the result of the election process”
