The Nasty Party (AKA the Tories), it's back!

[icowden]

Cameron gets the blame for agreeing to hold the stupid referendum and not setting a 2/3 majority requirement. 52/48 is too close for such a divisive decision.

But we must also blame the Conservative Party generally. The referendum was advisory. All they had to do was declare that the result was too close to justify the major upheaval that Brexit would cause, or to announce a further referendum in a years time to allow more of the facts to be put before the British public.

The fact is that they wanted it, and made it happen in the worst possible way whilst pretending it was "the will of the people" when it was actually a get richer quick scheme.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

But we must also blame the Conservative Party generally. The referendum was advisory. All they had to do was declare that the result was too close to justify the major upheaval that Brexit would cause, or to announce a further referendum in a years time to allow more of the facts to be put before the British public.

The fact is that they wanted it, and made it happen in the worst possible way whilst pretending it was "the will of the people" when it was actually a get richer quick scheme.

It was also held due to demands from the hard core of the party who believed in Brexit (and who - by pure coincidence - happened to be the ones who stood to make the most money out of it - funny that)
Cameron was hoping a votre by "the People" would tell them to sod off and they would shut up and stop causing him problems

Well that went well - when it went "the wrong way" then he had just made these problems worse so he lobbed his toys out of the pram and legged it to his Shepard's hut to write a book or something

Although I bet that his finances also improved at the same time for "other reasons" - in spite of the extraordinary cost of his wooden shed on wheels that had been rebadged (presumably by Mike Brewer) as a Shepard's hut - and yes I did look it up at the time!)

Still - Sovereignty ehh!

 

[fozy tornip]

I think because he failed so spectacularly as a leader and disappeared into disgrace, people have overlooked the role he played in both the unique self-harm of Brexit, but also allowing the utter denigration of political discourse. In effect Boris Johnson was able to do what he did because Corbyn was so monumentally useless. His populism was little different to the populism of the brexit right. It was grounded in fantasy, undeliverable, regardless of how attractive it may have sounded to some.

It is ridiculous that he was ever on the ballot sheet for the Labour leadership. A man of such limited intellect and zero achievements to his name.

 

[fozy tornip]

For serving in the hapless Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet, gutless and fawning enabler-in-chief Keir "Yellow" Starmer must be held squarely responsible for Bozza, Cummings, Brexit, Covid, Truss, Rwanda, poo everywhere, the demise of the UK as a going concern and Curly Wurlies getting smaller, surely.
What an epic c*nt.

 

[multitool]

Another butthurt Corbynite

 

[The Crofted Crest]

Another butthurt Corbynite

Does this mean anything? Serious question. And show your working.

 

[multitool]

Does this mean anything? Serious question. And show your working.

Yes. It has to be seen in the light of the previous poster's two posts.

There's a weird symmetry between those who fell for the populism of the Brexit movement, and those who fell for the populist message of the Corbyn cult.

Faced with the both movements delivering nothing but chaos, their respective adherents do not want to face a reckoning for what they have done. Fozy's invocation to "let it go", is in essence a plea to not examine this short era. It carries the same short, three word slogan as "Get over it". Both are aimed at shutting down the conversation, both are aimed at avoiding a historical analysis.

 

[BoldonLad]

For serving in the hapless Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet, gutless and fawning enabler-in-chief Keir "Yellow" Starmer must be held squarely responsible for Bozza, Cummings, Brexit, Covid, Truss, Rwanda, poo everywhere, the demise of the UK as a going concern and Curly Wurlies getting smaller, surely.
What an epic c*nt.

Are they?, disgraceful, Starmer must go ☹️

 

[fozy tornip]

Faced with the both movements delivering nothing but chaos, their respective adherents do not want to face a reckoning for what they have done. Fozy's invocation to "let it go", is in essence a plea to not examine this short era. It carries the same short, three word slogan as "Get over it". Both are aimed at shutting down the conversation, both are aimed at avoiding a historical analysis.

Suit yourself.

"It was Corbyn all along, Sam: Sauron's just a patsy.."

 

[cookiemonster]

Christ on a Cannondale, he's getting desperate.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/2...ationalists-speech-extremism/#comments-anchor

 

[The Crofted Crest]

WTAF?!

"... a divisive ideological attempt to set Britain against Britain."

Would you vote for him?

 

[icowden]

WTAF?!
"... a divisive ideological attempt to set Britain against Britain."
Would you vote for him?

To be fair, I think that was probably bad reporting. I suspect he said "Briton against Briton".

 

[qigong chimp]

I read it as Sunak’s application to join the Labour Party.

 

[icowden]

Egg on the face again of whoever is the Attorney General this week (Victoria Prentiss apparently).
Despite doing a Daily Mail and referring the sentencing of Valdo Calocane to the Court of Appeal for being unduly lenient, the Judges have thrown out the appeal saying that there was absolutely nothing wrong with it.

The victims as usual have not been properly supported leading to this:

In a statement following the hearing, Mrs Webber said the ruling illustrated the need for "urgent reforms" in UK homicide law.
"Despite the fact that the attorney general herself feels that Valdo Calocane did not receive the appropriate sentence, today's outcome proves how utterly flawed and under-resourced the criminal justice system in the UK is," she said.

It should have been explained to her that a hospital order is not lenient by any means, but it is the only appropriate method of dealing with someone who is mentally ill and who has been sectioned. He will be in a high security hospital and cannot be released without the agreement of the Justice Secretary. He is "in prison" in the same way that Ian Brady, the Krays and Peter Sutcliffe were "in prison".

But the Conservative party will take any opportunity to chuck a dead cat.

 

[Bromptonaut]

Egg on the face again of whoever is the Attorney General this week (Victoria Prentiss apparently).
Despite doing a Daily Mail and referring the sentencing of Valdo Calocane to the Court of Appeal for being unduly lenient, the Judges have thrown out the appeal saying that there was absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Politicians avoid making difficult calls themselves and waste time and money on going to court. We've seen this before with the Police Office Andrew Harper where the then Attorney General, Ms Braverman, asked the court to declare a sentence that followed the guidelines to the letter excessively lenient. The court commented as follow:

In this case, however, the argument advanced by the Attorney is that the sentence of Long, and therefore the sentences on Bowers and Cole, were unduly lenient because the judge erred in failing to depart from the relevant guideline.

That is, to say the least, an unusual submission.

The bolded bit is Judge speak for stark raving bonkers.