The UK’s broken asylum system

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Milzy

Well-Known Member
In good company, even on here.

Interesting to see your milk of human kindness tap is very much in the off position when it comes to druggies plaguing your neighbourhood, but is gushing when it comes to asylum seekers.

Could it be that one has a direct impact on you and the other does not?

What does that make you - other than a typical citizen?
I don’t like this post…… I love it.
 
We could try to introduce a rule where only topics with direct impact on the poster can be commented on.
Keep up Paley, with your own posts even if nothing else.
 

multitool

Guest
In good company, even on here.

Interesting to see your milk of human kindness tap is very much in the off position when it comes to druggies plaguing your neighbourhood, but is gushing when it comes to asylum seekers.

Could it be that one has a direct impact on you and the other does not?

What does that make you - other than a typical citizen?


Right, now that I have a moment I'll address this post.

Not wanting a petty crime wave on one's doorstep, and taking whatever steps available either the law to end it is entirely compatible with:

1) questioning whether immigration via dingy even presents the social issues it is purported to, especially given the ageing population of the UK and the low birthrate. We have an obligation to allow people to claim asylum. France takes in 4x the number we do. Germany 10x.

2) thinking that the present government is incompetent in its handling of the dingy issue in manifest ways. Rather than millions spent of Rwanda nonsense which is also illegal, it could be spent on employing staff to process claims and deport if needed.

3) thinking that law is now being decided on the basis of what makes a good political slogan

4) thinking that inciting fear of and hatred towards immigrants is a slippery slope

5) recognising that performative cruelty to give people like you a hardon is not what I want a government to do.
 
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multitool

Guest
Really though, the truth is that this government does not want to solve this issue.

Why? Because it has more to gain by not solving than it does by solving it, because of gullible people like Pallid and Shep.

So what does it do? Underfund the asylum processing service and promote nonsense headline-grabbing jnitiative like Rwanda and the prison barge that are irrelevant in the face of nearly 50k cases a year.

It could open safe routes and fund the processing of arrivals through them and deal with this dingy stuff in one go. But it won't.
 

Pale Rider

Veteran
Really though, the truth is that this government does not want to solve this issue.

Why? Because it has more to gain by not solving than it does by solving it, because of gullible people like Pallid and Shep.

So what does it do? Underfund the asylum processing service and promote nonsense headline-grabbing jnitiative like Rwanda and the prison barge that are irrelevant in the face of nearly 50k cases a year.

It could open safe routes and fund the processing of arrivals through them and deal with this dingy stuff in one go. But it won't.

I quite like some of this patter, although I can't get away with the conspiracy theory.

It also under-estimates the pressing and immediate question of hundreds/thousands of people pitching up on our beaches/pebbles.

If we had decent weather we could just leave 'em there, but we don't so we cannot.

A two-pronged approach is needed, immediate action to accommodate those who arrive, and efforts to up the rate of processing.

Which is what is happening.

The third prong is a longer term aim of getting the message across to the travellers the UK is not the easy option they may have been led to believe.
 

multitool

Guest
I quite like some of this patter, although I can't get away with the conspiracy theory.

Conspiracy theory?

Jenrick is saying out loud:


View: https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1689178630016978944?s=20

See also the home office's data on backlog growth vs applications:

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So Jenrick is clearly lying.

Now, do a search of Jenrick on this issue. He's been put out all over the media to promote the cruelty. Why? Because the Tories are facing a landslide defeat in the next election and they have nothing else to use.
 
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I'll repeat it slowly for you...

We take in four times fewer people than France, and ten times fewer than Germany.

That the UK is an easy option is just another hard right myth.

Far bigger countries for them to spread out as well and less populated in comparison to size.
 

Pale Rider

Veteran
I'll repeat it slowly for you...

We take in four times fewer people than France, and ten times fewer than Germany.

That the UK is an easy option is just another hard right myth.

So those little leaflets in various foreign languages telling people how to game the UK system are also part of a hard right conspiracy?

This mythical group of right wing loonies have been very busy.

I'm not too fussed what France, Germany, or anyone else does, I want what's right for the UK.

Comparisons are, in any event, odious.

The Germans have a culture of using and sacking at will thousands of immigrant workers in their car industry.

VW are doing it again as we speak due to poor sales of electric cars.

They'd never get away with that here, which is just one example to illustrate why saying what's good for country A is good for country B is a complete nonsense.
 
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Labour want to process more, they generally let everyone stay. More labour voters
 
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