These Covid Polices Are Going Well .....

[farfromtheland]

Are those adverts on bus stops saying that boosters prevent infection?

No, but they do feature attractive smiling people who are not wearing masks.

 

[mudsticks]

Boris telling us all that we should get our boosters, as a service to others to please hesus..

“That, after all, is the teaching of Jesus Christ, whose birth is at the heart of this enormous festival – that we should love our neighbours as we love ourselves,” he said.


My immediate thought was "Sorry Bozza ,
but theres no way, even I could love my neighbour as much as you love yourself.


- For the record I got boosted a couple of weeks ago...

So that's my Christmas bonhome all done and dusted..

Merry festering all




.

 

[Rusty Nails]

No, but they do feature attractive smiling people who are not wearing masks.

And?

 

[farfromtheland]

And?

So not information so much as propaganda?

 

[Rusty Nails]

So not information so much as propaganda?

Rubbish. Not meant to be information but a promotion campaign for vaccination. Nowhere does it say, or imply, that vaccination prevents infection, except for those with an agenda bee in their bonnet.

 

[farfromtheland]

A promotion campaign = Propaganda (Visual in this case.)

 

[Rusty Nails]

A promotion campaign = Propaganda (Visual in this case.)

Or a public information campaign....which is a well established role of governments on health issues, as opposed to propaganda..."information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view".
You seem to be backpedalling about your claim that the government is campaigning that vaccines prevent infection and now saying that the government vaccine campaign is propaganda. That is your prerogative of course, but it is still rubbish.

 

[farfromtheland]

Or a public information campaign....which is a well established role of governments on health issues, as opposed to propaganda..."information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view".
You seem to be backpedalling about your claim that the government is campaigning that vaccines prevent infection and now saying that the government vaccine campaign is propaganda. That is your prerogative of course, but it is still rubbish.

I looked up many definitions of propaganda, and though bias may be present, it ain't necessarily so.
Wikipedia has -
" Propaganda is a modern Latin word, ablative singular feminine of the gerundive form of propagare, meaning 'to spread' or 'to propagate', thus propaganda means for that which is to be propagated... "

So it's still propaganda. It is possible for a campaign to be tendentious without bald untruth, as in encouraging inference without giving full information. Mask wearing is good prevention, but smiles are more photogenic. Even the Green Cross Code was propaganda, though less contentious.

I think I said the media encourages the idea that vaccines are a good preventative rather than the government as such. I read mjr's linked articles - thanks - and find that the emphasis has changed now, since the Omicron experience. Until recently press releases from Pfizer and Moderna were anticipating good prevention from in vitro tests.

 

[Ian H]

I looked up many definitions of propaganda, and though bias may be present, it ain't necessarily so.
Wikipedia has -
" Propaganda is a modern Latin word, ablative singular feminine of the gerundive form of propagare, meaning 'to spread' or 'to propagate', thus propaganda means for that which is to be propagated... "

So it's still propaganda. It is possible for a campaign to be tendentious without bald untruth, as in encouraging inference without giving full information. Mask wearing is good prevention, but smiles are more photogenic. Even the Green Cross Code was propaganda, though less contentious.

You are quoting the etymology, not the modern definition.

 

[farfromtheland]

You are quoting the etymology, not the modern definition.

I am aware of that - the neutral derivation is not entirely outdated though. The Cambridge English Dictionary gives something somewhere in between -

https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › english › propaganda
propaganda noun [ U ] disapproving uk / ˌprɒpəˈɡændə / us information, ideas, opinions, or images that give one part of an argument, which are broadcast, published, etc. in order to influence people's opinions

I do not think the 'Get Boosted' ad campaign is neutral, however, I think it is one-sided.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

You are quoting the etymology, not the modern definition.

Aye, if you took the definition of ''public'' you'd find it hard to explain why other nations call public schools ''private.''

 

[Ian H]

I am aware of that - the neutral derivation is not entirely outdated though. The Cambridge English Dictionary gives something somewhere in between -

https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › english › propaganda
propaganda noun [ U ] disapproving uk / ˌprɒpəˈɡændə / us information, ideas, opinions, or images that give one part of an argument, which are broadcast, published, etc. in order to influence people's opinions

I do not think the 'Get Boosted' ad campaign is neutral, however, I think it is one-sided.

What would a 'neutral' campaign say?

 

[farfromtheland]

"Statistics show that 47% of people are pedantic.

Well, 46.8%."

https://bestjokehub.com/pedant/

 

[BoldonLad]

"Statistics show that 47% of people are pedantic.

Well, 46.8%."

https://bestjokehub.com/pedant/

Or, as the predictive text on my phone would have it:

46.8% of people are pendants

 

[PaulB]

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/dec/26/school-trips-to-uk-slump-brexit

As it says....