This Just In!

[Pale Rider]

The BBC have now published a timeline:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2023/bbc-statement

TLDR version is that parents made a complaint to a local BBC office in May but for reasons that look at worst like a cock up attempts to follow up with the complainant parents failed. The allegations were significantly different to, and probably less serious than, those in the frame now.

The Sun reported it last week, with significantly more information than in the May complaint. There was then enough to go on for a proper investigation with Senior Staff etc involved.

The long 'doing nothing' gap is still a problem for the BBC, whatever the strength of the original complaint.

So far, the parents' claim they were being fobbed off looks about right.

It took the intervention of The Sun to get things moving as they should have been.

"We're not fussed unless there's some publicity," is a poor look, but one I've seen many times from large organisations.

Similar to defendant's families, who only burst into tears when the nasty piece of work gets a decent sentence.

They couldn't give a stuff about the hapless victim, and have gone further by actively supporting him in his offending.

Sometimes they even have a go at the reporter - nothing wrong with what the scrote has done, the offence is the reporter telling everyone about it.

 

[monkers]

The long 'doing nothing' gap is still a problem for the BBC, whatever the strength of the original complaint.

So far, the parents' claim they were being fobbed off looks about right.

It took the intervention of The Sun to get things moving as they should have been.

"We're not fussed unless there's some publicity," is a poor look, but one I've seen many times from large organisations.

Similar to defendant's families, who only burst into tears when the nasty piece of work gets a decent sentence.

They couldn't give a stuff about the hapless victim, and have gone further by actively supporting him in his offending.

Sometimes they even have a go at the reporter - nothing wrong with what the scrote has done, the offence is the reporter telling everyone about it.

However:

The twenty year old 'alleged' victim told the Sun before publication that he was not a victim of the 'alleged' perpetrator of the 'alleged' crime.

So tell me again why this is not a shitstorm that benefits the Sun and why it is for the 'public interest'.

 

[Bromptonaut]

Emails usually either reach their destination or, if there's a typo or whatever, are back in the senders box in minutes.

May take longer if they're enqued for a full mailbox or other traffic/routing issue then there should be a message to tell the sender that.

I might perhaps, dependent on time and context, follow it up if apparently received but no reply. If it's gone in the recipient's junk folder, then IMHO, that's their fault for not checking.

Was a delivered/read receipt requested with the outgoing email?

As regards calls then a similar situation I'd expect to see at least two further attempts so three in total. That would be so even if the first failed to connect, calls should and over at least 48 hours.

The times and any messages or tones etc should be recorded on the file. I'd say something like call # 11/07/22 14:30, rang to timeout, recorded message that phone is not available or, though it's so rare now youn colleagues don't know it, an unobtainable tone. Similar, and this happened to me last week, if you get a foreign ringtone/message.

That bit is where there's been a screw up.

I suspect the case handler who had responsibility for this issue in June/July will have had a 'no tea and biccies' interview with their line manager and at least one Senior Officer. Any upward trajectory in their career will have reversed direction at least temporarily.

It is however a balls up due to (possibly) employee laziness, overload or whatever. Not a corporate failure.

Maybe the parents will have some info to join up the dots.

OTOH I wonder how many calls the BBC has in a week making allegations that Mr Blobby or whoever is a paedo/commy/embezzler etc etc.

 

[Beebo]

It doesn’t look great but I would be interesting to know how many spurious complaints the BBC receives every week, and how they sort the wheat from the chaff.
But equally I don’t think the Sun have covered all bases either with their enquiry. But again they probably receive plenty of spurious stories each week.

 

[winjim]

It's difficult to believe that Paedogeddon first aired twenty two years ago this month. That's nearly half my lifetime.

Channel 4 of course but then the government would like to see that dismantled as much as they would the BBC.

 

[Bromptonaut]

It doesn’t look great but I would be interesting to know how many spurious complaints the BBC receives every week, and how they sort the wheat from the chaff

Pretty much my thought too.

 

[icowden]

The days of wealthy people bankrolling newspapers purely for political influence are long gone.

Absolutely Murdoch had nothing to do with Brexit, Trump's election win, the insurrection at the White House, the last election win for Boris or anything else.

It's pure coincidence that he owns a TV channel that circulates and amplifies hate and misinformation and that his newspapers usually support the Tories to make sure that he retains the tax breaks that he enjoys.

 

[Milzy]

I wonder, will this be "it" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66140356

If it can be timed correctly, this should be able to keep all kinds of nasties out of the news, War in Ukraine, War in Sudan, Partygate, Interest rate rises, etc, etc will all be relegated to the small print.

It’s Hue Edwards. The kid seems to be paid off fully now.
Good day.

 

[Bromptonaut]

It’s Hue Edwards. The kid seems to be paid off fully now.
Good day.

Is that official then??

Otherwise the site owner might take a view....

 

[matticus]

It’s Hue Edwards.

The most colourful man in News? Please say it ain't so

 

[Milzy]

Absolutely Murdoch had nothing to do with Brexit, Trump's election win, the insurrection at the White House, the last election win for Boris or anything else.

It's pure coincidence that he owns a TV channel that circulates and amplifies hate and misinformation and that his newspapers usually support the Tories to make sure that he retains the tax breaks that he enjoys.

It wasn’t an insurrection….. ohhh forget it.

The most colourful man in News? Please say it ain't so

 

[Pale Rider]

Seems a second male received abusive message from The Presenter over a refusal to meet in person following contact on a dating app.

That brings the Malicious Communications Act into play, as if this wasn't already complicated enough.

It also demonstrates publicity - even anonymous publicity - can play a useful role in bringing forward new evidence and/or victims.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Sorry Adam, but that's another fail.

Mackenzie is history, but in today's difficult times you can be sure The Sun has gone to great lengths to stand up the story.

Just because a lawyer for one of the participants says it's rubbish is no reason not to publish, particularly when you know it's not rubbish.

The Sun, quite properly, has published the lawyer's comments at the first opportunity.

Except it now seems like the Sun are going back on the original headline ?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...n-its-story-about-the-suspended-bbc-presenter

 

[C R]

Except it now seems like the Sun are going back on the original headline ?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...n-its-story-about-the-suspended-bbc-presenter

There's also the story that a police force was approached by the mother in April and they found no criminality.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

It’s [snipped]. The kid seems to be paid off fully now.
Good day.

Hey Milzy, you should delete that as soon as possible, along with your subsequent meme. I’m not that bothered about the consequences for you but I’d rather not see Shaun’s livelihood threatened for your mistake.