Trail Hunting ban

[briantrumpet]

Something - I can't remember what - happened between the local hunt and my late FiL. So he banned them from his fields. Mind you he was an aggressive old bastard: he caught a rider in one of top fields one day and an argument about rights of way ensued. She threatened him with her riding crop, he grabbed the bridle and threatened to bring the horse down. The joys of rural life.

Oh, I thought horsey life was always like Thelwell...

 

[AndyRM]

View: https://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE?si=G8rnY-UsxFWp3mA3

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

I used to know a bloke who trained gundogs - apparently he was very well-known for providing excellently trained dogs
He also worked at times for all the local farmers and landowners
Including acting as s beater for shoots , gamekeeper and that sort of thing

I asked him about hunting and he said in his opinion is a farmer had a problem with a fox he dealt with it with a gun
or called him and he did it
dogs and horses are pretty much unless and too slow if you have a problem

 

[Beebo]

dogs and horses are pretty much unless and too slow if you have a problem

If you have an issue with a fox in your hen house in June, the words you don’t want to hear are “Wait for Boxing Day”

 

[Ian H]

I used to know a bloke who trained gundogs - apparently he was very well-known for providing excellently trained dogs
He also worked at times for all the local farmers and landowners
Including acting as s beater for shoots , gamekeeper and that sort of thing

I asked him about hunting and he said in his opinion is a farmer had a problem with a fox he dealt with it with a gun
or called him and he did it
dogs and horses are pretty much unless and too slow if you have a problem

I forget where I read that fox populations are far lower in regions without hunts.

 

[briantrumpet]

I forget where I read that fox populations are far lower in regions without hunts.

That's not entirely surprising, as the hunts need foxes to be able to hunt. The hunting farmer I knew expressly said that they kept habitats on their farm which were fox-friendly for that reason.

 

[Psamathe]

I forget where I read that fox populations are far lower in regions without hunts.

(May be repeating, sorry but can't remember). When I lived in Oxon they had artificial sets (I passed a couple just walking my dog not even seeking them out) and they used to buy in foxes from a supplier 30 miles away.

 

[CXRAndy]

We have large woodland on our property which probably supports foxes, I know we have badgers and deer herds

We dont allow the local hunt to come onto our land, whether that be horses/riders or dogs.

 

[BoldonLad]

That's not entirely surprising, as the hunts need foxes to be able to hunt. The hunting farmer I knew expressly said that they kept habitats on their farm which were fox-friendly for that reason.

Does that mean Hunts could be viewed as Conservationists 😂

Isn't the same true of game birds (ie pheasants, grouse)

 

[PurplePenguin]

This is a classic discussion where I would like both sides of the argument to lose.

 

[briantrumpet]

Does that mean Hunts could be viewed as Conservationists 😂

Isn't the same true of game birds (ie pheasants, grouse)

I suspect you'll find that that's long been one of their excuses. Sorry, benefits, I meant benefits.

 

[BoldonLad]

I suspect you'll find that that's long been one of their excuses. Sorry, benefits, I meant benefits.

I am absolutely no expert on "countryside matters" having been a "townie" all of my life, I do often wonder, when watching TV programs about Conservation, when it is said that to preserve the "natural" environment, "management" is needed. If it is "managed", is it "natural" ?

 

[briantrumpet]

I am absolutely no expert on "countryside matters" having been a "townie" all of my life, I do often wonder, when watching TV programs about Conservation, when it is said that to preserve the "natural" environment, "management" is needed. If it is "managed", is it "natural" ?

Dartmoor is highly managed to look like the sort of wilderness that the public think it should be.

 

[PurplePenguin]

The UK's hunting rules are so different to the rest of the world's.

Foxes get to live by the sword, but not die by it.

Then there are the hunters. They don't hunt for meat or gracefully stalk an animal. They completely trash the countryside, follow arcane traditions and should really just play golf - that has some nice dress standards and hierarchical codes to follow.

 

[BoldonLad]

Dartmoor is highly managed to look like the sort of wilderness that the public think it should be.

Exactly. The same is true of much of the Lake District, and, only last night I watched Countryfile, where there was much talk of "managing" Nature Reserves (cutting reed beds etc).

My point is, is that "natural"?

It seems to me that "Nature" has been disrupted by our meddling, so, the solution is more meddling?