War with Russia

[briantrumpet]

My sincerest apologies.
Utter, utter, utter ****.

No need to be so hard on yourself, PB.

 

[Pblakeney]

No need to be so hard on yourself, PB.

Quite proud of being hard me. 😉
Saying something at this age. 😂

 

[Dorset Boy]

Conspiracy theory time - Pootin's stooges set fire to the electricity substation in west London that has forced Heathrow to shut down all day and left 16,000 homes without power....
And some think an extra runway is a good idea!

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Conspiracy theory time - Pootin's stooges set fire to the electricity substation in west London that has forced Heathrow to shut down all day and left 16,000 homes without power....
And some think an extra runway is a good idea!

Great.
My nephew was supposed to fly home to Argentina this evening…

 

[C R]

Great.
My nephew was supposed to fly home to Argentina this evening…

We have a lot of people flying into Heathrow over the weekend for a company meeting next week. It will be interesting to see what happens with their flights.

 

[Ian H]

Great.
My nephew was supposed to fly home to Argentina this evening…

Friends in West London are reporting a beautifully quiet day, as are friends in Berks, west of the airport.

 

[Pblakeney]

I see the US envoy to Ukraine is repeating Putin’s stance on Ukraine.
Those peace talks don’t bode well for Ukraine.

 

[Pblakeney]

Been thinking about the above. The logic is that Ukraine should be part of Russia because they speak Russian.
Same logic, the U.S.A. should be part of England because they speak English. It is the same, right?

 

[Ian H]

Been thinking about the above. The logic is that Ukraine should be part of Russia because they speak Russian.
Same logic, the U.S.A. should be part of England because they speak English. It is the same, right?

Not really. Ukraine is a rather more nebulous entity. Its borders have fluctuated over the centuries - Crimea was only transferred from Soviet Russia in the 1950s. Ukraine's very existence as an independent state has been sporadic. It was and still is one of the most corrupt states in Europe.

 

[briantrumpet]

I still don't understand what claim the US has in the first place to be bargaining away Ukraine with Russia over the heads of Ukraine itself and Europe. WTF has it got to do with them?

 

[Pblakeney]

Not really. Ukraine is a rather more nebulous entity. Its borders have fluctuated over the centuries - Crimea was only transferred from Soviet Russia in the 1950s. Ukraine's very existence as an independent state has been sporadic. It was and still is one of the most corrupt states in Europe.

All of the above was sorted out with agreed treaties. The only person to breach the treaties is Putin.
Ukraine being corrupt is Ukraine's problem. Bombing the sh!t out of it certainly won't help.

 

[Ian H]

I still don't understand what claim the US has in the first place to be bargaining away Ukraine with Russia over the heads of Ukraine itself and Europe. WTF has it got to do with them?

Might is right? Plus Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize and Trump wants one. He thinks he can bring peace to Ukraine (at whatever cost) and thus be rewarded (expect sanctions against Sweden if he doesn't get the prize).

 

[C R]

I still don't understand what claim the US has in the first place to be bargaining away Ukraine with Russia over the heads of Ukraine itself and Europe. WTF has it got to do with them?

Because they are big and we are small. There's nothing sophisticated about this.

 

[Pblakeney]

I still don't understand what claim the US has in the first place to be bargaining away Ukraine with Russia over the heads of Ukraine itself and Europe. WTF has it got to do with them?

Trump want to trade with Russia. It is all about the deal. Trump doesn't give a fig about Ukraine, except what he can get out of it.

 

[HMS_Dave]

Russia to get Ukraine, Russia won't then protest US annexation of Greenland...