War with Russia

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Pblakeney

Regular
No need to be so hard on yourself, PB.
Quite proud of being hard me. 😉
Saying something at this age. 😂
 

Dorset Boy

New Member
Conspiracy theory time - Pootin's stooges set fire to the electricity substation in west London that has forced Heathrow to shut down all day and left 16,000 homes without power....
And some think an extra runway is a good idea!
 

Pblakeney

Regular
Been thinking about the above. The logic is that Ukraine should be part of Russia because they speak Russian.
Same logic, the U.S.A. should be part of England because they speak English. It is the same, right?
 

Ian H

Legendary Member
Been thinking about the above. The logic is that Ukraine should be part of Russia because they speak Russian.
Same logic, the U.S.A. should be part of England because they speak English. It is the same, right?

Not really. Ukraine is a rather more nebulous entity. Its borders have fluctuated over the centuries - Crimea was only transferred from Soviet Russia in the 1950s. Ukraine's very existence as an independent state has been sporadic. It was and still is one of the most corrupt states in Europe.
 

Pblakeney

Regular
Not really. Ukraine is a rather more nebulous entity. Its borders have fluctuated over the centuries - Crimea was only transferred from Soviet Russia in the 1950s. Ukraine's very existence as an independent state has been sporadic. It was and still is one of the most corrupt states in Europe.

All of the above was sorted out with agreed treaties. The only person to breach the treaties is Putin.
Ukraine being corrupt is Ukraine's problem. Bombing the sh!t out of it certainly won't help.
 

Ian H

Legendary Member
I still don't understand what claim the US has in the first place to be bargaining away Ukraine with Russia over the heads of Ukraine itself and Europe. WTF has it got to do with them?

Might is right? Plus Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize and Trump wants one. He thinks he can bring peace to Ukraine (at whatever cost) and thus be rewarded (expect sanctions against Sweden if he doesn't get the prize).
 
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