War with Russia

[Cirrus]

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Who builds a warship out of lead?

Well they used to use it in plumbing

 

[Xipe Totec]

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Collateral damage on hardware of aggression is seen as more newsworthy.

But as ever It's the bodies and minds of innocent civilians that are impacted the worst
Powerful protest in Estonia.

Russia's warcrimes have been widely reported it was in between the new of bombing here and there before they hit Russia's little boat. Hell Ukranians even uncovered communication between a russian solder and his wife giving him permission to go and rape as long as he used ''protection''
That's why Russia now uses mobile crematoriums in Mariupol(and most likely many other places) to get rid of the evidence. Terrible country (well the leadership/military)

The ship was almost 40 years old and built in Ukraine.
Russia are clearly not as powerful as they try to project and are leaving themselves extremely vulnerable.
Apart from fossil fuels, Nukes and crime against humanity they don’t seem to have much to offer the world.

Nope they aren't most analyst say it's because of the willing to say something to please the higher leadership effect along with poor motivation and training in general.
A 40 year old ship on itself doesn't say that much, think the Us still has a lot in service too of that age and older but they are modernized, but more importantly their crew is much better trained etc.

 

[Milzy]

Russia's warcrimes have been widely reported it was in between the new of bombing here and there before they hit Russia's little boat. Hell Ukranians even uncovered communication between a russian solder and his wife giving him permission to go and rape as long as he used ''protection''
That's why Russia now uses mobile crematoriums in Mariupol(and most likely many other places) to get rid of the evidence. Terrible country (well the leadership/military)

Nope they aren't most analyst say it's because of the willing to say something to please the higher leadership effect along with poor motivation and training in general.
A 40 year old ship on itself doesn't say that much, think the Us still has a lot in service too of that age and older but they are modernized, but more importantly their crew is much better trained etc.

Wow. You’ve been radicalised by Western media. Most of the Russian Civilians are peaceful & don’t want their forces to hurt anyone never mind rape them with a Johnny on. FFS 🤦‍♂️

 

[Johnno260]

Wow. You’ve been radicalised by Western media. Most of the Russian Civilians are peaceful & don’t want their forces to hurt anyone never mind rape them with a Johnny on. FFS 🤦‍♂️

In all fairness that’s a little rich with some of the tripe you have cited in the past.

 

[Johnno260]

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Wow. You’ve been radicalised by Western media. Most of the Russian Civilians are peaceful & don’t want their forces to hurt anyone never mind rape them with a Johnny on. FFS 🤦‍♂️

There was something between these signs '' ( '' and the other way round '' ) '' So that means there something i added to it what you apparently didn't read. Let me extract that for you: it said ''(well the leadership/military)'' you then go on about radicalized by Western media and that most of the civilians are peacefull.. first off how do you actually know that? Second off if you would have a reliable source to know that great for you, i didn't say anything about civilians ibn the first place.

 

[Milzy]

There was something between these signs '' ( '' and the other way round '' ) '' So that means there something i added to it what you apparently didn't read. Let me extract that for you: it said ''(well the leadership/military)'' you then go on about radicalized by Western media and that most of the civilians are peacefull.. first off how do you actually know that? Second off if you would have a reliable source to know that great for you, i didn't say anything about civilians ibn the first place.

I’ve spoken to Russians & they are very sad about what’s happening. They know Putin is using censorship & propaganda. They’ve told me the Kremlin & their rich friends are sucking up all the countries money leaving millions of people to struggle who used to be doing well but are now all poor. It’s like what the Tories have been doing but on steroids.

 

[BoldonLad]

I’ve spoken to Russians & they are very sad about what’s happening. They know Putin is using censorship & propaganda. They’ve told me the Kremlin & their rich friends are sucking up all the countries money leaving millions of people to struggle who used to be doing well but are now all poor. It’s like what the Tories have been doing but on steroids.

розовые очки

 

[Ian H]

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Tiny, self-selecting sample

 

[BoldonLad]

Tiny, self-selecting sample

That too, but, in my experience, there is always a fair proportion of “it was better before”, in any population.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

I’ve spoken to Russians & they are very sad about what’s happening. They know Putin is using censorship & propaganda. They’ve told me the Kremlin & their rich friends are sucking up all the countries money leaving millions of people to struggle who used to be doing well but are now all poor. It’s like what the Tories have been doing but on steroids.

Considering the recent ''unkown'' fires today 150miles outside Ukraine and earlier this week in a research thing near Russia you could be right, or better worded, there is a form of resistance against the Russian regime from Russia/Russians themselves and it's getting stronger and more organized. There is for example also an Russian fraction fighting with the Ukrainians. (and with the greater goal of overthrowing's the Russian government, they currently don't have nearly enough numbers tough)

There is a more cultural explanation behind the Z war, not made by me, i'm not to kind the person to claim to be an expert after reading a few facebook/twitter post, but by the guy i link belowwho knows where he's talking about)


View: https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1516162437455654913
(you can also read it in n tweet longer reader site it's quite an essay.)

 

[Fab Foodie]

This thread's gone quiet, but outside the rhetoric is heating-up.
Still not convinced this is going to end-up without direct NATO involvement in the fairly near future unless Putin is removed by his own.
Putin holds all the cards to keep this rolling along. I can't see him being ground down to the last tank - he will do something to which NATO will have to respond.
He must either be victorious or martyr to NATO aggression.

 

[Rusty Nails]

This thread's gone quiet, but outside the rhetoric is heating-up.
Still not convinced this is going to end-up without direct NATO involvement in the fairly near future unless Putin is removed by his own.
Putin holds all the cards to keep this rolling along. I can't see him being ground down to the last tank - he will do something to which NATO will have to respond.
He must either be victorious or martyr to NATO aggression.

This thread has gone remarkably quiet.

Which comes as no real surprise.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Instead of the USA and others pumping weapons and money into the war....I'd like to see Biden etc calling on peace talks cease fires ?
Escalation by NATO/USA surely leads to WW3 ?