War with Russia

[Pblakeney]

What the hell is that ^ all about?

I'm guessing that international law is a joke. Might well have a point there.

 

[Pinno718]

I'm guessing that international law is a joke. Might well have a point there.

If you put this idea in his head, he might claim that's what he meant. Best leave him to waffle and then find the holes.

 

[Rusty Nails]

but the fundamental problem, is the machine. Do y'all understand this

Therein lies the problem. You subscribe to Mencken's theories of democracy.

 

[briantrumpet]

I wonder what the plan will be on Wednesday.

 

[Pblakeney]

I wonder what the plan will be on Wednesday.

View attachment 11248

Different to the plan on Thursday. And so on...
Who knew that stopping a war could take more than a day?

 

[Pinno718]

Different to the plan on Thursday. And so on...
Who knew that stopping a war could take more than a day?

I think Zelensky should accept the deal and then bomb the f*ck out of Russia as soon as the Russians think there is a cessation in the conflict.
Catch them off guard, have a Turkey shoot and ruin them financially because it seems to me that whatever is on the table is more beneficial to Russia and the peace brokers are a) not to be trusted and b) are totally bias.

 

[Pblakeney]

I think Zelensky should accept the deal and then bomb the f*ck out of Russia as soon as the Russians think there is a cessation in the conflict.
Catch them off guard, have a Turkey shoot and ruin them financially because it seems to me that whatever is on the table is more beneficial to Russia and the peace brokers are a) not to be trusted and b) are totally bias.

Seems fair as I fully expect Putin to do similar.

 

[secretsqirrel]

If the Gaza ‘ceasefire‘ is anything to go by, it will be business as usual, and Trump will claim it as a triumph.

 

[Psamathe]

From the leaked deal some quite unbelievable clauses eg Clause 14

14. Frozen funds will be used as follows: $100 billion of the frozen Russian funds will be invested in a US-led effort to reconstruct and invest in Ukraine. The US will receive 50% of the profits from this venture. Europe will match this $100 billion contribution to increase the investment available to rebuild Ukraine. The European funds that are frozen will be released. The balance of the frozen Russian funds will be invested in a separate US-Russia investment vehicle that will pursue joint United States Russia projects in areas to be defined.

So Europe to put-up $100 bn against US $0 yet US to take 50% of the profits from reconstruction and investment. Frozen Russian assets from Europe to be in vested in US-Russia investment vehicle (again US takes the profit).

 

[Pinno718]

From the leaked deal some quite unbelievable clauses eg Clause 14

So Europe to put-up $100 bn against US $0 yet US to take 50% of the profits from reconstruction and investment. Frozen Russian assets from Europe to be in vested in US-Russia investment vehicle (again US takes the profit).

The US has been taking a 10% mark up of rrp all along from military hardware sales.

 

[Pinno718]

Chilly willies in Moscow after boom!

 

[Pross]

From the leaked deal some quite unbelievable clauses eg Clause 14

So Europe to put-up $100 bn against US $0 yet US to take 50% of the profits from reconstruction and investment. Frozen Russian assets from Europe to be in vested in US-Russia investment vehicle (again US takes the profit).

It's classic Trump to be viewing a 'peace deal' as an opportunity to make money.

 

[Pinno718]

The urgency for Russia to secure a deal is that as they are going in to winter and are facing long range strikes against the energy infrastructure.

 

[Pinno718]

Jake Broe on deaths in Ukraine after bombing, no war time crimes nor accountability in the peace plan - much more favourable to the Russians, alcoholics and drug addicts recruited to fight on the front line, slashing army bonuses and sign up fees amongst $61bn deficit, Ukrainian soldiers being executed by the Russians:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6SL64xyn6Q

 

[Pinno718]