War with Russia

[Pinno718]

Add some desperation:

 

[Pinno718]

I think that's what I just said, give or take.

Yes - I was simply confirming your opinion but not from me.

 

[briantrumpet]

Further indications that Ukraine thinks it has the initiative now.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-endless-kyiv-signals-peace-offer-may-expire

• Ukraine may revise its ceasefire offer to Russia if the UN security council fails to pass a resolution urging a full and ⁠unconditional end to ⁠the hostilities, Kyiv’s envoy to the UN has warned. Ukraine had changed the dynamic in the war with recent strikes, said Andrii Melnyk, adding that some 40% of Russia’s oil refineries had been damaged.
• Melnyk told a security council session that Ukraine stoody ready for direct negotiations with Russia but “our patience is not endless”. “If the security council would further choose a wait-and-see approach, I cannot exclude that Ukraine may recalibrate and modify its offer. Ceasefire along the de facto ‌front line is already a great compromise.”

All Russia can do, it seems, is carry on targeting Ukrainian civilians.

 

[Pinno718]

Further indications that Ukraine thinks it has the initiative now.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-endless-kyiv-signals-peace-offer-may-expire



All Russia can do, it seems, is carry on targeting Ukrainian civilians.

What amazes me is that amongst all Russian talk - whether it's at the top or amongst the propagandists or even the general public, is that there is no talk of "If we stop bombing and killing Ukrainians and withdraw our army from the occupied territories, this conflict might end the fuel shortages ...and the economic downward spiral ...and the number of deaths and wounded ...and the continued decimation of our oil infrastructure ...and the sanctions ..." [add to the list of what you will].

 

[briantrumpet]

 

[briantrumpet]

Incidentally, Jeffrey Goldberg and Anne Applebaum wrote this piece in the Atlantic in 2023. It seems like this is happening now.