War with Russia

[Pinno718]

Add some desperation:

 

[Pinno718]

I think that's what I just said, give or take.

Yes - I was simply confirming your opinion but not from me.

 

[briantrumpet]

Further indications that Ukraine thinks it has the initiative now.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-endless-kyiv-signals-peace-offer-may-expire

• Ukraine may revise its ceasefire offer to Russia if the UN security council fails to pass a resolution urging a full and ⁠unconditional end to ⁠the hostilities, Kyiv’s envoy to the UN has warned. Ukraine had changed the dynamic in the war with recent strikes, said Andrii Melnyk, adding that some 40% of Russia’s oil refineries had been damaged.
• Melnyk told a security council session that Ukraine stoody ready for direct negotiations with Russia but “our patience is not endless”. “If the security council would further choose a wait-and-see approach, I cannot exclude that Ukraine may recalibrate and modify its offer. Ceasefire along the de facto ‌front line is already a great compromise.”

All Russia can do, it seems, is carry on targeting Ukrainian civilians.

 

[Pinno718]

Further indications that Ukraine thinks it has the initiative now.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-endless-kyiv-signals-peace-offer-may-expire



All Russia can do, it seems, is carry on targeting Ukrainian civilians.

What amazes me is that amongst all Russian talk - whether it's at the top or amongst the propagandists or even the general public, is that there is no talk of "If we stop bombing and killing Ukrainians and withdraw our army from the occupied territories, this conflict might end the fuel shortages ...and the economic downward spiral ...and the number of deaths and wounded ...and the continued decimation of our oil infrastructure ...and the sanctions ..." [add to the list of what you will].

 

[briantrumpet]

 

[briantrumpet]

Incidentally, Jeffrey Goldberg and Anne Applebaum wrote this piece in the Atlantic in 2023. It seems like this is happening now.

 

[First Aspect]

Add some desperation:

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It has been done before. Supposedly they offer great interest rates. Sadly by taking liquidity out of the economy like this is probably going to bugger it up. Cracking way to reduce inflation, but probably also a great way to completely destroy long term growth.

 

[secretsqirrel]

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Pre-2022 invasion, romance frauds mostly came out of Ukraine. They could fleece the unwary incredible efficiently. Glad to see they are utilising their skills.

 

[Beebo]

It has been done before. Supposedly they offer great interest rates. Sadly by taking liquidity out of the economy like this is probably going to bugger it up. Cracking way to reduce inflation, but probably also a great way to completely destroy long term growth.

Not sure I’d want my cash seized without my consent, no matter what interest rate they are offering.
Surely you just end up with a run on the banks as everyone desperately tries to withdraw funds.

 

[Pinno718]

Not sure I’d want my cash seized without my consent, no matter what interest rate they are offering.
Surely you just end up with a run on the banks as everyone desperately tries to withdraw funds.

That's already happened to a degree when the govt. were proposing turning savings in excess of x amount into govt. bonds but when some official starts threatening taking all of the savings...

The black market for fuel will be cash based too.

This is a good article in the Moscow Times:

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026...utages-erode-trust-in-digital-payments-a92235

...and https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026...ank-deposits-could-be-used-for-economy-a93074