Yet more Tory sleaze….

[Mr Celine]

The issue is that Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner have spent months going about how people should be honest and open about who was at which event, and the PM must be a thicky if he can't even remember whether he was at a party and if others can't remember him being there they must be lying.
As a result they should resign blah blah blah.

Now it turns out that she couldn't remember being in the same room as Keir Starmer eating sandwiches and drinking after sharing a flipping desk to do a zoom call together, where she introduced then got up and he sat down. All of which is apparently an honest mistake and the fact they both have been on tv denying it took place is just an oversight, and they really didn't remember.

No, they lied too. If they get a fine will do what they have been saying any politician should do in these circumstances and resign? No of course they won't, they will say it was unclear, they didn't break the rules as they saw them and round we all go again.

They are all at it, one lot will be no better than the other. It's a sad fact of life I am afraid.

Which laws, or guidance, do you think they broke?

 

[mudsticks]

Unfortunately they were elected in our democratic system , so unless you want to dispense with that and have a non elected body govern… I mean, who exactly are the”grown ups” of which you speak?

Grown ups don't watch porn in public places, let alone the HoC,
For a start.

They don't harass others whether sexually or otherwise.

They don't lie repeatedly about things such as brexit being 'Best for Britain'
When that's clearly and palpably total bollix

They don't try to demonise refugees, 'benefit scroungers' and immigrants, and blame them for the cost of living crises and austerity.

They don't blame those groups above for their own deliberate underfunding of services essential to a good society..

They don't attempt to prerogue parliament

They don't make rules about covid, and then break them repeatedly themselves , whilst denying any of it.

Grown ups don't give ppe contracts to their mates..

They don't interfere with the electoral commission, and introduce voter ID to fix a non existent problem with fraud, in order that the least advantaged in society are disenfranchised .

Grown ups don't restrict our long fought for right to protest.

Grown ups don't ignore and drag their heels over action to tackle climate change, because they're highly susceptible to lobbying from oil corps..

I could go on, but my tea is ready..

You don’t believe the UK is a democracy?

Becoming less so, with every month the Tories are in power.

See above for further details 🙄

 

[Deleted member 49]

Which laws, or guidance, do you think they broke?

Is that you Craig ?

 

[winjim]

Something that I’d agree with…. So why start your post with the condescending…

Because it would be a boring post if I didn't at least try to inject a little humour into it.

What do you want, a Bomb Squad remix?

 

[Cirrus]

Grown ups don't watch porn in public places, let alone the HoC,
For a start.

They don't harass others whether sexually or otherwise.

They don't lie repeatedly about things such as brexit being 'Best for Britain'
When that's clearly and palpably total bollix

They don't try to demonise refugees, 'benefit scroungers' and immigrants, and blame them for the cost of living crises and austerity.

They don't blame those groups above for their own deliberate underfunding of services essential to a good society..

They don't attempt to prerogue parliament

They don't make rules about covid, and then break them repeatedly themselves , whilst denying any of it.

Grown ups don't give ppe contracts to their mates..

They don't interfere with the electoral commission, and introduce voter ID to fix a non existent problem with fraud, in order that the least advantaged in society are disenfranchised .

Grown ups don't restrict our long fought for right to protest.

Grown ups don't ignore and drag their heels over action to tackle climate change, because they're highly susceptible to lobbying from oil corps..

I could go on, but my tea is ready..




Becoming less so, with every month the Tories are in power.

See above for further details 🙄

And what’s your proposal for not allowing the non grownups into power, who arbitrates, who says yay or nay, who says they can stand for election or not … “the likes of you” I suppose?

 

[Cirrus]

Because it would be a boring post if I didn't at least try to inject a little humour into it.

What do you want, a Bomb Squad remix?

Don’t give up your day job, comedy doesn’t appear to be your forte ...😂

 

[mudsticks]

And what’s your proposal for not allowing the non grownups into power, who arbitrates, who says yay or nay, who says they can stand for election or not … “the likes of you” I suppose?

A better informed public would be a good start.

I think (really hope) more than a few are waking up to whats actually going on.

No one should be disallowed from standing, not by me, or anyone, but the public need to know who, and what they're really voting for.

And the whole electoral system needs reform..

Our current fptp system doesn't serve us or democracy well imo.

Out of interest would you agree that the list above is outwith qualifying as 'grown upness'..??

 

[mudsticks]

Don’t give up your day job, comedy doesn’t appear to be your forte ...😂

It's highly subjective isn't it.??

But Jim makes me laugh more than most on here.

Tbh its probs my unsophisticated rustic soh, that he appeals to..

Metropolitan elitists need not apply...

 

[Cirrus]

It's highly subjective isn't it.??

But Jim makes me laugh more than most on here.

Tbh its probs my unsophisticated rustic soh, that he appeals to..

Metropolitan elitists need not apply...

Lol… I may have to get my white knight cartoon thingy out😂😂

 

[mudsticks]

Lol… I may have to get my white knight cartoon thingy out😂😂

Don't you have any funny memes??

Tbh that one was a bit old when you posted it the first time..

Out of interest , do you assume every positive / supportive / friendly interaction between a man and a woman, either on t'internet, or elsewhere has some kind of subtext , or hidden agenda.??

 

[winjim]

'Home of the relentlessly po faced'

 

[winjim]

Lol… I may have to get my white knight cartoon thingy out😂😂

I'm a step ahead of you there, or did you miss the post where I acknowledged white knighting as a behaviour?

 

[Cirrus]

'Home of the relentlessly po faced'

As I said, don’t give up your day job…

 

[mudsticks]

I'm a step ahead of you there, or did you miss the post where I acknowledged white knighting as a behaviour?

And in reality we know, that if it came to a stand up fight, you're the one more likely to need my protection.

After all, I've got a far better arsenal of sharp and gnarly tools .


Access to several hosses, if it comes to it..

🐎🐎🐎🐎

 

[Cirrus]

Out of interest , do you assume every positive / supportive / friendly interaction between a man and a woman, either on t'internet, or elsewhere has some kind of subtext , or hidden agenda.??

Everything has meaning, every word we utter, every action we take, it may be subconscious but it has meaning, there are no ‘accidents’.