Badenoch's (Lack Of) Vision Quest

[Beebo]

Strange, but last time I looked the UK had left the EU

Sadly.
but the magic golden unicorn Brexit strangely never materialised. So I Brexit as promised by the advocates never materialised.

And Farage’s whole shtick is that his Brexit would have been much better than anything we have now.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Sadly.
but the magic golden unicorn Brexit strangely never materialised. So I Brexit as promised by the advocates never materialised.

And Farage’s whole shtick is that his Brexit would have been much better than anything we have now.

That was the failure of the referendum. Yes or No. Nobody knew there was 50 shades of brexit, all poo colour.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Hope I've not missed it being previously posted

If there is sufficient backlash then she’ll be back tomorrow to say “of course I didn’t mean it like that”. She‘s got form for backtracking.

 

[Ian H]

What does it mean?

I think it means she, unlike others, doesn't want to sleep with Farridge.

 

[BoldonLad]

The Tory Party conference is gonna be lit.

Genuinely, it's going to be fascinating what happens - I suspect it's going to be more like a wake: everybody just sits around and mumbles things while they check that the ex-party really is dead.

well, provided they don't bleat on about Reform and Farage in every speech, that will be a win. The Nigel and Farage gets more than enough coverage without giving him even more, IMHO of course

Edit: oops, I think IanH said something similar, had not read that far ahead

 

[briantrumpet]

I think it means she, unlike others, doesn't want to sleep with Farridge.

Maybe she can't afford the £880k fee.

 

[Psamathe]

If there is sufficient backlash then she’ll be back tomorrow to say “of course I didn’t mean it like that”. She‘s got form for backtracking.

But it maybe highlights how poor her "policy" making is and thus why she's dragging the Conservative Party into oblivion.

Most polls (I'v seen or heard about) suggest that the UK population/electorate is generally supportive of Climate Change measures and the importance of addressing the challenge. Add that few anywhere still contest that Climate Change is man made and will have ever more serious impacts on our lives and costs (eg cleaning up after a flood is expensive, then add business losses, etc.).

So what does Ms Badenoch hope to achieve with her vow to repeal Climate Change Act? It won't be popular with the electorate, is counter to what the majority accept and would seem to worsen rather than improve any chances of keeping our planet habitatable (for humans). Does she think her "policy" is going to help the Conservative Party (or help anybody)? It's just daft at so many levels and I suspect it widely seen as such.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

the magic golden unicorn Brexit strangely never materialised. So I Brexit as promised by the advocates never materialised.

I reckon I might have found @Stevo 666's Brexit unicorn

 

[briantrumpet]

But it maybe highlights how poor her "policy" making is and thus why she's dragging the Conservative Party into oblivion.

Most polls (I'v seen or heard about) suggest that the UK population/electorate is generally supportive of Climate Change measures and the importance of addressing the challenge. Add that few anywhere still contest that Climate Change is man made and will have ever more serious impacts on our lives and costs (eg cleaning up after a flood is expensive, then add business losses, etc.).

So what does Ms Badenoch hope to achieve with her vow to repeal Climate Change Act? It won't be popular with the electorate, is counter to what the majority accept and would seem to worsen rather than improve any chances of keeping our planet habitatable (for humans). Does she think her "policy" is going to help the Conservative Party (or help anybody)? It's just daft at so many levels and I suspect it widely seen as such.

She spends too much time on X.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Not disagreeing but weird thing is how the disaster that is Brexit doesn't seem to be impacting Faragë/Reform. OK, he didn't negotiate the details of the disaster but everybody must be able to see the extent he influenced and pushed us into "harder Brexit". Yet he seems to be escaping any blame.

I think @Pross has got it spot on. Farage is a master at positioning himself as anti-establishment, just there to hold those in charge to account and he has been enabled by a compliant media.

I know a lot of people think getting into power would be his downfall, but I think like Trump, a lot of his followers don't really care. They have bought into the cult of personality. If he can't deliver, he will just blame someone else and his supporters will buy it.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

You're clearly just trying to finish them off suggesting thing like that 🙂

I have to give you that one Stevo 👍

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Genuinely can't see the appetite to rebuild. The blue-rinse brigade who used to be its backbone have died or have decided that they'd either just a bit more racism than Tories can muster.

Totally agree re Brexit. I was no fan of May, but she realised that it was an impossible project without both dishonesty and damaging Britain's finance and status in the global community. Johnson was the man who had what it took.

You may well be right, certainly not with this generation. Maybe it will have to die off to be resurrected as something else once Reform inevitably implodes and we can get back to asensible politically right party.

 

[briantrumpet]

I think the Tories problem is their membership. They are unrepresentative of the population as a whole, what appeals to them repels the rest of the country.

I see no way that they can reinvent themselves from this point.

It's a tiny number now. It used to be as much a social club as anything, and although al party membership has declined, the Tories' decline is bigger than the other parties, proportionally. (Apologies for the out-of-date graph - but I suspect it's declined even more with the alternative of Reform for the legitimate concernists).

A number of factors, I'd guess - the oldies dying off, people not joining political parties generally, etc But there's hardly any membership to care about it now, and no groundswell who will want to resurrect it.

 

[Psamathe]

... although al party membership has declined ...

I wonder if the underlying cause across all parties is how much contempt there is across the population for politicians. The we have been so let down by so many politicians for quite a number of years across quite a number of parties. Maybe the Conservatives are suffering this more as their demographic is older and thus become less mobile eg for all parties 20 new members to 100 leavers except for the conservatives it's 20 new members to 100 leavers plus 20 funerals.

Not suggesting it's the entire cause but maybe a contributory factor?

 

[Stevo 666]

Sadly.
but the magic golden unicorn Brexit strangely never materialised. So I Brexit as promised by the advocates never materialised.

And Farage’s whole shtick is that his Brexit would have been much better than anything we have now.

I was never aware of any unicorns. Freedom and independence usually have a price worth paying though.