Badenoch's (Lack Of) Vision Quest

[Stevo 666]

How, exactly?

Specific process & details would be helpful.

Just my personal view, I'd be happy to let them if I were in charge. I realise it might not be so easy in reality. Although as we all know, Scotland was given a go 10 years back and decided to stay.

 

[Xipe Totec]

Just my personal view, I'd be happy to let them if I were in charge. I realise it might not be so easy in reality. Although as we all know, Scotland was given a go 10 years back and decided to stay.

Don't care about your "personal view" or the events of 11 years ago - explain the process.

 

[Psamathe]

There must be an answer, it's just that people don't seem to be capable of giving it. All I am trying to establish is how effective the old arrangement was I reality - regardless of how good it might look on paper. That said, it's not too relevant as we won't be going back.

The relevant question is about the number of asylum seekers and illegal migrants, not their means of travel. Irrelevant questions are a waste of time eg "how many people crossing in small boats had a haircut in the proceeding week?"

And the relevant question about numbers of asylum seekers and numbers of illegal migrants has massive uncertainty as many using lorries (before the switch to boat crossings) absconded without detection by authorities. So any answer is not useful.

Meaningless data helps nothing except prejudice.

 

[Stevo 666]

Don't care about your "personal view" or the events of 11 years ago - explain the process.

You carry on whining like f*ck until the English get so tired of it that they give you another referendum?

 

[Stevo 666]

The relevant question is about the number of asylum seekers and illegal migrants, not their means of travel. Irrelevant questions are a waste of time eg "how many people crossing in small boats had a haircut in the proceeding week?"

And the relevant question about numbers of asylum seekers and numbers of illegal migrants has massive uncertainty as many using lorries (before the switch to boat crossings) absconded without detection by authorities. So any answer is not useful.

Meaningless data helps nothing except prejudice.

You might not think it's useful. Other views are available.

 

[BoldonLad]

There must be an answer, it's just that people don't seem to be capable of giving it. All I am trying to establish is how effective the old arrangement was I reality - regardless of how good it might look on paper. That said, it's not too relevant as we won't be going back.

I posted a link ( in the Starmer vision(?) thread, if I recall) to a BBC story a few days ago, it concerned a couple ( asylum seekers) who have been bouncing around Europe for 20+ years, so, the answer would appear to be “not very”

 

[Psamathe]

You might not think it's useful. Other views are available.

For data to be useful it has to be reliable and show something. The data you are asking about shows nothing more than improvement of port security in French Channel ports and is unreliable because of measurement issues.

 

[Xipe Totec]

You carry on whining like f*ck until the English get so tired of it that they give you another referendum?

So you don't know, then. Quel surfückingprise.

Have another go.

 

[Stevo 666]

So you don't know, then. Quel surfückingprise.

Have another go.

I don't give toss what you want. I've given my answer above and if you don't like it, tough sh1t.

 

[Xipe Totec]

I don't give toss what you want. I've given my answer above and if you don't like it, tough sh1t.

Don't like your own dogshit 'debating' techniques very much, do you?

Funny, that.

 

[Stevo 666]

Don't like your own dogshit 'debating' techniques very much, do you?

Funny, that.

It was a statement of personal preference - as I mentioned above but you failed to understand.

Tough shoot it is then.

 

[First Aspect]

BadEnoch has said on BBC radio that the new Tory policy on removing illegal migrants is to send them not here. When asked to clarify, she said not here. Finally, when pressed, she said "where they came from". So France then, Kemi. Excellent.

 

[First Aspect]

"I'm an Engineer, and we are taught to have a plan and follow it through."

Just like Brian Boitano.
View: https://youtu.be/sNJmfuEWR8w?si=f-ca7x1k3b3ATzrJ


Kemi is comedy gold.

 

[briantrumpet]

Kemi is comedy gold.

The fact that no-one's actively trying to replace her just reinforces my suspicion that no-one actually cares about the Tory Party as a political entity any more, despite Badenoch being hilariously bad. If Jenrick is manoeuvring behind the scenes, he'll only be using the party as a vehicle for his Reformy agenda, as Farage is unlikely to welcome a potentially ambitious rival into Reform.

 

[CXRAndy]

BadEnoch has said on BBC radio that the new Tory policy on removing illegal migrants is to send them not here. When asked to clarify, she said not here. Finally, when pressed, she said "where they came from". So France then, Kemi. Excellent.

Tories will use US style removal force.

Hell no, just ring up Trump get the 'Real thing'