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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

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She is right, but when you have people like Putin on the other side then the calculation is somewhat more complicated. It brings to mind the old se vis pacem para bellum.

It's where idealism and the real world collide. It's a pity that the world as it is has to take precedence, but it's hard to take people seriously who need to deny the reality in order to argue their position, without any recognition of the consequences.
 

CXRAndy

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but it's hard to take people seriously who need to deny the reality in order to argue their position,

Can I use this in the trans thread ?
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

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It is an equation based on a false premise, always has been. It's runner up in the high school debating contest stuff, (where there were two contestants.)

Here's a longer and more detailed rebuttal of Sultana's stance, from someone who campaigned with her in 2019

https://htsf.substack.com/p/coventr...n?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=7aibo

So let’s get to the point: in July 2024 the people of Coventry South voted for a Labour MP committed to NATO membership, support for Ukraine, and a moderate defence budget. What they’ve now got is an MP who wants to pull out of NATO, who calls their own country “imperialist” but not Russia, who is “inspired” by a bunch fake leftists and wants to scrap both our armed forces and Coventry’s defence industry.

Sultana has no democratic mandate for promoting such politics using the privileges of an MP. People watching the podcast interview who’ve said she sounds “stupid”, or “like a student union leader” are badly under-estimating the damage she is doing to democracy.

This is a calculated political move to guide people who are justifiably outraged by Israel’s war crimes in Gaza into a movement to damage the national security of the UK. It’s being done in collaboration with European politicians who are explicitly hostile to the UK’s interests. As of right now, for the first time since the 1930s, we have an MP in parliament who wants to leave our country defenceless against Russian aggression. Yet nobody voted for this.

So maybe the people of Coventry South deserve a by-election: maybe Sultana should stand down and try to get elected on the political positions she now holds rather than the ones she stood on just over a year ago?

After all, in 2020 she was one of just seven Labour MPs who voted for a Bill to force all MPs who change parties to do exactly this. But it seems that is yet another political principle she no longer holds.
 

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It's where idealism and the real world collide. It's a pity that the world as it is has to take precedence, but it's hard to take people seriously who need to deny the reality in order to argue their position, without any recognition of the consequences.

There are no consequences, if your chances of carrying out her "position" are nil.
 
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briantrumpet

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Looks like we ought to be deporting young white men to prevent women being raped.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...l-after-racially-aggravated-attack-say-police

West Midlands police said: “John Ashby, who is a white British man aged 32 from Stockland Green (Birmingham), has been charged this evening with rape and remanded to appear before Birmingham magistrates court tomorrow.

“He was also charged with sexual assault, strangulation, racially aggravated actual bodily harm and robbery. It follows the rape of a woman in her 20s who was attacked in the Park Hall area of Walsall on Saturday night.”
 

C R

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Looks like we ought to be deporting young white men to prevent women being raped.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...l-after-racially-aggravated-attack-say-police

Funny, none of the legitimate concerns lot seem concerned about these two cases in Birmingham.
 
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The US right-wing press will hve its giggles... in their desperation to spike Mamdani's popularity in the NY mayoral election, the best they've been able to come up with (so far) is that he called someone his aunt who isn't a blood aunt. Scandalous. Good job I'm not running for NY mayor, as I called my unrelated godmother "aunt" until she was about 80 (because she still like to be called that), and I told the story about her meeting Alan Turing at Bletchley Park during WW2.

Almost as scandalous as the NY Post managing to shoehorn in 9/11 and hijab into their headline ("scary muslims!!!") and CNN doing the vague "faced pushback over a story he told" (smear smear) pretending to be neutral.

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Not much footage out of Jamaica yet, but no doubt there will be more when the sun comes up. Doesn't look great from this report.

 
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