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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

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Does that mean Trump ‘owns’ the BBC now?

Two wrongs don’t make a right but……..
The irony of it all is that the 50mins between the first half of the sentence and the other half of the sentence of the speech was all lies (about the election being stolen and threatening Pence). By the time Panorama was broadcast last year, everybody had drawn their own conclusions on what Trump was up to. If the attack on the Capital was against his wishes why did he pardon the rioters.

The consensus seems to be that it was a stupid edit even if it did convey what Trump was up to. At the same time, given the BBC is not a US broadcaster, the fact that two bigwigs have resigned for an editorial blunder seems an overreaction, only designed to appease the RW press and Farage/Johnson (if they aren't actually all the same thing).

How about Gary Lineker for DG?
 
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This sums it up fairly well for me - I won't shed any tears for Davie, unless he's replaced by someone worse. That said, in today's polarised world, it's going to be hard to find someone acceptable to left and right, to both pro-Israel & pro-Palestine advocates, etc.

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midlandsgrimpeur

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the fact that two bigwigs have resigned for an editorial blunder seems an overreaction, only designed to appease the RW press and Farage/Johnson

Yep, Huw Edwards, Gaza Doc, Lineker, Bob Vylan, Masterchef, all generated signficant controversy but no resignations. Trump and they all fall on their sword. Pandering to these idiots just grants them even more legitimacy.
 

secretsqirrel

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The TOP people in the BBC, including TIM DAVIE, the BOSS, are all quitting/FIRED, because they were caught “doctoring” my very good (PERFECT!) speech of January 6th.

"Thank you to The Telegraph for exposing these Corrupt “Journalists.” These are very dishonest people who tried to step on the scales of a Presidential Election.

"On top of everything else, they are from a Foreign Country, one that many consider our Number One Ally. What a terrible thing for Democracy!"

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First Aspect

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The Iranian water shortage is creeping up the news agenda.

The Beeb are reporting that "the dams are empty".

Did I miss when a reservoir started to get referred to as a dam?
 
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The Iranian water shortage is creeping up the news agenda.

The Beeb are reporting that "the dams are empty".

Did I miss when a reservoir started to get referred to as a dam?

Foreign language, innit. Can't be having French on the Beeb.

Although, to be fair (and implausible), if the writer of the piece is from Yorkshire.... here's one of the OED's definitions of 'dam':

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It'll be 'interesting' if Democrats in the Senate now effectively fold without preserving the ACA even for one more year. If they do, the old guard will be done, and every one of them will deserve to lose their seats in the primaries. I mean, they still think they can play by the rules and consensus, while the Republicans are stiffing them and laughing at their lack of spine. And whilst the vast bulk of the electorate is pinning this all on Trump & Johnson. How to snatch defat from the jaws of victory.

It might all be smoke & mirrors, but the more progressive Democratic senators are fearing the worst from Schumer tonight, it seems.
 
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Pblakeney

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It'll be 'interesting' if Democrats in the Senate now effectively fold without preserving the ACA even for one more year. If they do, the old guard will be done, and every one of them will deserve to lose their seats in the primaries. I mean, they still think they can play by the rules and consensus, while the Republicans are stiffing them and laughing at their lack of spine. And whilst the vast bulk of the electorate is pinning this all on Trump & Johnson. How to snatch defat from the jaws of victory.

It might all be smoke & mirrors, but the more progressive Democratic senators are fearing the worst from Schumer tonight, it seems.

Schumer is a wet rag and less than useless.
The Democrats better wake up to that soon.
 

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Yep, Huw Edwards, Gaza Doc, Lineker, Bob Vylan, Masterchef, all generated signficant controversy but no resignations. Trump and they all fall on their sword. Pandering to these idiots just grants them even more legitimacy.

Err, never head of the final straw?
I think your list just adds to the reason they have gone - it's the culmination of a string of BBC cock ups.
 

midlandsgrimpeur

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Err, never head of the final straw?
I think your list just adds to the reason they have gone - it's the culmination of a string of BBC cock ups.

I'd disagree, they showed no intention previously. Davie is coming out with the 'it is ultimately my responsibility line'. If that is your moral code (and it should be), you step down after any big scandal, certainly after two, you don't wait for number 6 or 7. They have resigned purely and simply because it involved Trump and the pressure they were coming under.
 
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Schumer is a wet rag and less than useless.
The Democrats better wake up to that soon.

As suspected, they've given in, with virtually nothing concrete to show for all the hassle people have been going through over the past few weeks. Utterly spineless. There are going to be an awful lot of very angry Democrat voters who will be looking to unseat all the spineless ones.

Republicans will be laughing all the way to the bank: ACA/Medicare slashed, tax cut for the billionaires.

US politics, and the US, is so, so broken. And it serves as a warning to the rest of the world, as the people who have broken it want to do the same to us.
 

Pblakeney

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As suspected, they've given in, with virtually nothing concrete to show for all the hassle people have been going through over the past few weeks. Utterly spineless. There are going to be an awful lot of very angry Democrat voters who will be looking to unseat all the spineless ones.

Republicans will be laughing all the way to the bank: ACA/Medicare slashed, tax cut for the billionaires.

US politics, and the US, is so, so broken. And it serves as a warning to the rest of the world, as the people who have broken it want to do the same to us.

As I see it, they are hoping to call Donnie's bluff and get government working again. Maybe get a democrat sworn in.
However they will in all likelihood fail as the deal has one major flaw with two problems.
1. It is based on a Donnie promise.
2. If the vote is held then the healthcare funding will be voted down.
 
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As I see it, they are hoping to call Donnie's bluff and get government working again. Maybe get a democrat sworn in.
However they will in all likelihood fail as the deal has one major flaw with two problems.
1. It is based on a Donnie promise.
2. If the vote is held then the healthcare funding will be voted down.

They keep on thinking that the Republicans will play by the rules and sense of decency, despite all the evidence to the contrary over decades, ramped up to the extreme since McConnell's shameless blocking of Obama's SC choice and Trump's ascendancy.
 
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