First Aspect
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Farage's "disagree" number is high. That's going to be a problem in a fptp general election. (He says wishfully)
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briantrumpet
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Not great for Polanski either.
Pblakeney
Squire
Good (in comparison) net result for Davey.
Psamathe
Legendary Member
Personal view: Polanski might talk about wanting to be PM but it's never going to happen. Best he can dream of is some influence in a minority Government or a slim majority with enough rebellious backbenchers. Probably more through ability to block than ability to make policy.
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briantrumpet
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I'm not sure what happened to trying to be inclusive and appeal to all sort of people who cared about the Planet... this is just pathetic.
Ian H
Shaman
Ethereal green policies are good, but they need to be grounded in a specific political framework, and capitalism ain't going to cut it. 'Working class' in this instance could encompass anyone who actually earns a living.
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briantrumpet
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I'm coming to the conclusion that the electorate just hates all politicians, because none of them provide unicorns, only donkeys. And the donkey market has been cornered by Private Equity.
I think all politicians are partly to blame, as they all go round saying the others are shit, but Farage is more to blame than any of them, as he has poisoned the discourse by cynically weaponising every minor quibble or concern and reignited blatant racism. He doesn't want anything to be solved, because fomenting dislike and hatred of politicians is how he's got where he is today. He's got no workable solutions, just base and cynical grievances.
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briantrumpet
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His use of 'working class' is just as meaningless as Glasman's, and cynical as Farage's appeal to the 'left behind'. I'm genuinely surprised how populist they've become, and how quickly, since Caroline Lucas stepped aside. The Green agenda seems to have been largely forgotten.
First Aspect
Legendary Member
Being working class is a virtue. Didn't you know?
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briantrumpet
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Only if you're working though. Or not working (but old enough to be paid a pension).
BoldonLad
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oh goody, I can call myself a virtuous pensioner 😂
As soon as I see the words "working class" I turn off.
Psamathe
Legendary Member
Plus they are the ones promising unicorns.
My days in business I was a software developer (though also company director), somewhat socially inept yet I'd get dragged to pre-sales face to face meetings with customers. Trying to win the business sales rep would be promising unicorns trying to outdo competitors and after a bit I'd turn round and "Actually you can't, won't work ... but what we can do is ..." at which point we'd won the deal and customer was ignoring sales guy and only talking to me asking questions all because they'd found the one person in the entire process who would tell them the truth.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
Working class means nothing unless it’s got hard-working in front of it and used in a political speech.
I worked for 45 years but can’t claim those years were all hard-working. My aim was to do enough and no more.
I worked for 45 years but can’t claim those years were all hard-working. My aim was to do enough and no more.
