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briantrumpet

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Anyone in London now - looks like there's some sort of party going on, with food & drink provided. Not sure if you should bring a bottle or Molotov cocktail...

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Beebo

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Anyone in London now - looks like there's some sort of party going on, with food & drink provided. Not sure if you should bring a bottle or Molotov cocktail...

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I do worry that we will end up with a summer of riots at this rate.
Certain sections of society are looking for any excuse to kick off.
 
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Given you claim to have been a tory when she was part of the Government, why would you now agreeing with her be a first?

The only thing I can remember her for was allegedly shagging John Major, and claiming that most of UK egg production was infected with salmonella (which was a rather wild claim). Prize for anyone who can remember anything she might have said that I would have agreed with her on. And yes, I did vote Tory then, and I would quite possibly vote for Major again, if the rest of the field was as shit as it is now, and he scrapped the EU Cakeism policy that Starmer is welded to.
 
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I do worry that we will end up with a summer of riots at this rate.
Certain sections of society are looking for any excuse to kick off.

They need to start by policing and prosecuting these things with at least as much enthusiasm as they pursue grannies silently holding up small placards, not just make forthright statements via X.
 
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A bit worried that our NI correspondent @TailWindHome has been silent... there's interesting commentary...

nohostages.bsky.social
June 10, 2026 at 7:53 AM GMT+1

English commentators need to stop analysing Northern Ireland through an English lens! When you see anti-immigrant riots in Belfast, Ballymena or Larne and immediately reach for "Britain's far-right problem", you're missing half the story. This isn't just racism. It's loyalist terrorism.

The areas most associated with anti-immigrant violence didn't emerge from nowhere. For decades, parts of loyalism have been linked to paramilitary organisations involved in drug dealing, extortion, intimidation, pogroms, and territorial control.

When masked men organise violence, patrol neighbourhoods, intimidate families and drive people from their homes, Northern Irish people recognise patterns that many English commentators seem unable to see. This is an attempt by loyalist gangs to make themselves releavant.

Sometimes, they target Catholics. At other times, it's Eastern Europeans, Africans, LGBT people or Muslims. By treating these riots solely as a reaction to immigration, some commentators launder the reputation of organisations that have spent decades terrorising working-class communities.

So cop on. If your analysis starts and ends with immigration, you're carrying water for people who have profited from drugs, terror, extortion and intimidation while wrapping themselves in flags. To understand Northern Ireland, you need to understand loyalist paramilitarism.

Educate yourself or shut up. Otherwise you're not explaining the problem. You're obscuring it. And that just makes things worse.
 

icowden

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The only thing I can remember her for was allegedly shagging John Major, and claiming that most of UK egg production was infected with salmonella (which was a rather wild claim).
But one that actually turned out to be true. Apparently subsequent reports showed that the salmonella risk was widespread. The fallout wasd vaccination schemes and the lion mark - which did almost eradicate salmonella from our eggs.

Prize for anyone who can remember anything she might have said that I would have agreed with her on. And yes, I did vote Tory then, and I would quite possibly vote for Major again, if the rest of the field was as shit as it is now, and he scrapped the EU Cakeism policy that Starmer is welded to.
I can find some that you wouldn't... as Junior Health Minister she said that good Christian people who would not dream of misbehaving would not catch AIDS. She also said that northerners die of ignorance and chips. Oh and she gave Jimmy Saville the keys to Broadmoor...

She did suggest that elderly people should wrap up warm in winter though.

In her later years she seemed to mellow - she tabled an amendment to reduce the age of consent for homosexual acts to 16. She also voted against the death penalty for murder.
 
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But one that actually turned out to be true. Apparently subsequent reports showed that the salmonella risk was widespread. The fallout wasd vaccination schemes and the lion mark - which did almost eradicate salmonella from our eggs.


I can find some that you wouldn't... as Junior Health Minister she said that good Christian people who would not dream of misbehaving would not catch AIDS. She also said that northerners die of ignorance and chips. Oh and she gave Jimmy Saville the keys to Broadmoor...

She did suggest that elderly people should wrap up warm in winter though.

In her later years she seemed to mellow - she tabled an amendment to reduce the age of consent for homosexual acts to 16. She also voted against the death penalty for murder.

Thanks. Some of that rings bells now. We've certainly had plenty worse since.
 

Dorset Boy

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Looks like a number of gangs are trying to kick things off again in Belfast
 
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PurplePenguin

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A bit worried that our NI correspondent @TailWindHome has been silent... there's interesting commentary...

nohostages.bsky.social
June 10, 2026 at 7:53 AM GMT+1

English commentators need to stop analysing Northern Ireland through an English lens! When you see anti-immigrant riots in Belfast, Ballymena or Larne and immediately reach for "Britain's far-right problem", you're missing half the story. This isn't just racism. It's loyalist terrorism.

The areas most associated with anti-immigrant violence didn't emerge from nowhere. For decades, parts of loyalism have been linked to paramilitary organisations involved in drug dealing, extortion, intimidation, pogroms, and territorial control.

When masked men organise violence, patrol neighbourhoods, intimidate families and drive people from their homes, Northern Irish people recognise patterns that many English commentators seem unable to see. This is an attempt by loyalist gangs to make themselves releavant.

Sometimes, they target Catholics. At other times, it's Eastern Europeans, Africans, LGBT people or Muslims. By treating these riots solely as a reaction to immigration, some commentators launder the reputation of organisations that have spent decades terrorising working-class communities.

So cop on. If your analysis starts and ends with immigration, you're carrying water for people who have profited from drugs, terror, extortion and intimidation while wrapping themselves in flags. To understand Northern Ireland, you need to understand loyalist paramilitarism.

Educate yourself or shut up. Otherwise you're not explaining the problem. You're obscuring it. And that just makes things worse.

It wouldn't surprise me if the majority British opinion is that it is a foreign land. Also, does it really explain the problem to entirely blame loyalists? I mean it's obviously possible, but it feels a bit like the sort of thing a commentator might say if they were not a loyalist.
 
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It wouldn't surprise me if the majority British opinion is that it is a foreign land. Also, does it really explain the problem to entirely blame loyalists? I mean it's obviously possible, but it feels a bit like the sort of thing a commentator might say if they were not a loyalist.

He does say "It's only half the story, which is not "entirely", or not when I failed A-level maths. Or maybe that's *why* I failed A-level maths.
 
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