Beebo
Legendary Member
Don’t forget they can buy a gun at 18 and learn to drive at 14 in some states.
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Don’t forget they can buy a gun at 18 and learn to drive at 14 in some states.
Pross
Guru
But they can opt out which begs the question why bother? It's just more reaction to the hot topic of the day producing ill thought out policies / legislation that satisfied no-one.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
Rentoul vying with Simon Jenkins for the worst take on any subject.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
I assume Rentoul would have disapproved of Swift's A Modest Proposal as not being funny, given he suggests eating babies.
Beebo
Legendary Member
I read the article and am still none the wiser.
First Aspect
Legendary Member
Shabir Ahmed. Why is he seen as being no longer the UKs problem?
icowden
Pharaoh
Don't understand the question. He's a dual national who had both British and Pakistani citizenship but is currently protected by a 1971 Act of Parliament forbidding his deportation. His British Citizenship has been revoked but we are stuck paying for him to be in prison.
That said, Pakistan are indicating that they would refuse to accept him.
The premise is that if someone is not British they should go back to their birth country if convicted of a serious crime, not be imprisoned here where they occupy prison space and cost the British tax-payer.
Pross
Guru
It's acceptable to revoke citizenship for someone if deemed "conducive to the public good". To turn the question on it's head, why should we allow him to stay? We have enough homegrown criminals. But for a strange clause in existing law he'd have been kicked out already, there must have been a reason that was originally added but no-one seems to know why.
icowden
Pharaoh
I think it was an omission rather than addition. There is no provision for criminality - the proposal is to update the law to bring it in line with other laws that state "you are welcome but you will be defenestrated if you commit serious crime".
Pross
Guru
I think there was also some clause because he arrived before 1973 and has been here more than 5 years he can't be deported (I think it may only apply to people from Commonwealth countries or something from the reporting I heard).
First Aspect
Legendary Member
Because of the reasons Pakistan how now articulated.
Why is he supposedly their problem?
icowden
Pharaoh
Because he was born in Pakistan and moved to the UK.
That said, the somewhat eggy bit is that he is now 73 years old - so born in 1953. He came to the UK in the late 1960s - so when he was between say 14 and 17 years old. Pakistan are thus arguing that he was "raised" as a British Citizen rather than Pakistani, so the UK should keep him.
First Aspect
Legendary Member
Indeed. I'm struggling a bit with the counter arguments.
PurplePenguin
Über Member
See the "Bangladeshi" Brit stuck in Syria as another example,
