Can the (Met) police ever change?

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Erm, isn’t sharing one’s opinions on stuff kinda the point of forums?
That's what I thought......
Well I'm sure we're all relieved to hear you don't advocate 'dodginess'..
 

mudsticks

Squire
Another one. Serving police officer charged with rape. Northwest this time. Seems to have escaped national news reporting. Being charged isn't a conviction obviously, but concerning nonetheless. Remanded into custody, no bail, which I would think is a bit unusual, though not much info on the reasons.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/20048606.darwen-police-officer-charged-rape-sent-custody/

Any surprise so many women don't trust the police, esp when reporting sex crimes.

Even if they do, the conviction rate is incredibly low.

Attitudes and behaviours, need to change.
 

Beebo

Guru
The job vacancy has been posted for the new Commissioner. The quoted salary is £293k. Any takers?
 
Saw a thing on Twitter earlier, can't find the link now. The family of Daniel Morgan, whose murder was linked to Met corruption, were saying how the Commissioner had blocked their investigations and questions every step of the way, for years. I think there will be more to come out on this and other matters.

I hope the new Commissioner decides to put everything in the public domain, regardless of the reputational damage for the Met. You can only restore public confidence through transparency. I suspect it will be more 'Let sleeping dogs lie' though.
 
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glasgowcyclist

glasgowcyclist

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It’s getting difficult to keep up now but I don’t think I’ve posted this one before.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-60605687

A Met officer who used his position to try to start a sexual relationship with "vulnerable" teenagers has been jailed for two years.

PC Adnan Arib, 45, contacted two girls, aged 15 and 16, after meeting them while on duty.
He met the 15-year-old in a park and sent the older girl dozens of text messages saying she was "very pretty".
The married officer had previously been found guilty of two counts of misconduct in a public office.

Jurors at Southwark Crown Court heard he continued contact with the 15-year-old after first being called to the girl's flat by her mother, who had accused her of stealing £10, in July 2019.
During a conversation in the teenager's bedroom, Arib asked the girl to write her phone number, name and other details on a piece of paper, the court was told.

He then met the girl alone in a park and asked her if she had a boyfriend. He suggested taking her out for a drink, which made the 15-year-old feel "uncomfortable", the jury heard.

In a victim statement, the girl's mother said Arib's actions meant "we don't feel secure in our own home".

He also asked the 16-year-old girl for her phone number and if she was in a relationship, prosecutors said.
The girl first came into contact with Arib after being reported as a missing person, the court was told.
Arib invited her out after she had been brought into Bethnal Green police station in east London.
Officers later found 47 text messages had been sent between them on a phone he initially tried to deny was his.
 
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glasgowcyclist

glasgowcyclist

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The Met's workrate is impressive: a non-stop stream of revelations. No wonder they don't have time to deal with crime.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ce-officer-found-guilty-of-child-sex-offences
Holy crap.

Are they particularly unlucky in having so many sex offenders within their ranks or is this indicative of an underlying problem throughout the country’s police service?
 

BoldonLad

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Holy crap.

Are they particularly unlucky in having so many sex offenders within their ranks or is this indicative of an underlying problem throughout the country’s police service?

Good point, I would think it definitely suggests they should review their recruitment/selection/interview procedures and techniques/methodology/criteria, because they appear to be getting an excess of "bad apples".
 
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People with those inclinations will seek out positions that give them access, whether that's police officer, teacher, priest, or scout leader. And, amongst the good ones, the police does attract those for whom the power of the badge is a bit of a trip in itself. Add those two traits together and I suppose you get individuals who are so confident that they have no qualms about using their job to access victims and think they are untouchable.

I wonder if they are actively reviewing vetting procedures because at the moment it's as if they are simply recruiting direct from the Sex Offender Register.
 

mudsticks

Squire
Another one. Liverpool this time. Officer running a WhatsApp group about female colleagues called 'Would You/Wouldn't You' with a 100 plus surreptitiously taken photos of women officers bending over etc. Why on earth would you risk your career and reputation to engage in something so pathetic?

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/new...eman-shared-disgusting-secret-photos-23710108

So infantile isn't it..??

(With apologies to all perfectly reasonably behaving babies)

But these are the kind of activities, and attitudes that blight careers ( of women officers) and lives in general..

Why can't they grow up..??
 

Ian H

Legendary Member
Back in the day when I was gainfully employed, we bought another company and moved in with them (they had a bigger factory). Two different ethoses had to be brought into line. You wouldn't believe* the hostility I encountered when I told our new (male) employees that their 'girlie' posters had to come down.

*actually, you might.
 
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