Can the (Met) police ever change?

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mudsticks

mudsticks

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Ian H said:
Back in the day when I was gainfully employed, we bought another company and moved in with them (they had a bigger factory). Two different ethoses had to be brought into line. You wouldn't believe* the hostility I encountered when I told our new (male) employees that their 'girlie' posters had to come down.

*actually, you might.
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I would.

I've worked in plenty of male dominated spaces, some were fine, others not so great.

There is definitely a culture, good or bad, that can be created.

Out of interest, did they ask why they had to remove them?

Or was it just grumbling compliance, with no particular interest in what the problem was..
 
Ian H

Ian H

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mudsticks said:
I would.

I've worked in plenty of male dominated spaces, some were fine, others not so great.

There is definitely a culture, good or bad, that can be created.

Out of interest, did they ask why they had to remove them?

Or was it just grumbling compliance, with no particular interest in what the problem was..
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I can't remember the conversations. One little fellow did argue the toss. The poster was in view halfway across the factory.
 
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glasgowcyclist

glasgowcyclist

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I've genuinely lost count now...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-61269111

A serving Met Police officer has been charged with rape.​
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PC Ireland Murdock allegedly attacked his victim in Lambeth while he was off duty on 25 September last year.​
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He was arrested on 11 January and will appear at Croydon Magistrates' Court on Friday.​
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PC Murdock has been suspended from duties. The Met's Directorate of Professional Standards has been informed, as has the Independent Office for Police Conduct.​
 
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glasgowcyclist

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Another unpleasant episode involving the strip search of a child.

Olivia (not her real name), who has autism and learning difficulties which had been notified to the police by her mother, was handcuffed by six officers before having her underwear cut off by female officers while male officers looked on.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61523291

"Olivia was actually on her period at the time too. And they cut off her underwear in front of these grown male officers." She added: "She was absolutely distraught."​

Lisa said her daughter's experience had a devastating impact on her mental health. "She became quite reclusive," she added.​
"She spent a lot of time in her room and she continued to self-harm in secret. And then a few weeks later, she attempted suicide." Olivia later appeared in court accused of possession of a bladed weapon and was found not guilty after magistrates accepted the items were used for self-harming.​
Her family is now bringing a civil case against the force.“​
 
Ian H

Ian H

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I'm not sure a joke is entirely appropriate after the previous post, but it does have a ring of truth.
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newfhouse

newfhouse

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After the refusal of the Met’s appeal application yesterday this has the appearance of spite.

Six people have been charged by the Met Police for allegedly breaking Covid-19 lockdown rules while attending a Sarah Everard vigil in south London.
Hundreds went to an unofficial event at Clapham Common in March 2021 after Ms Everard was kidnapped, raped and murdered by Met officer Wayne Couzens.
The vigil, on 13 March, saw clashes between police and some of those there.
The six are due before Westminster Magistrates' Court accused of gathering when London was in Tier 4 restrictions.
An official vigil had earlier been called off by the organisers, Reclaim These Streets.
Dania Al-Obeid, 27, from Stratford; Vivien Hohmann, 20, of Clapham; Ben Wheeler, 21, from Kennington and Kevin Godin-Prior, 68, of Manchester all face a charge of participating in a gathering of more than two people in a public outdoor place in a Tier 4 area.
They have been listed to be dealt with under a paper-based process not held in open court, at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Wednesday.
Now Jade Spence, 33, from Lambeth, and Jenny Edmunds, 32, from Lewisham, are due at the same court on 15 June.

Appeal refused​

Further charge details say they allegedly gathered on "Saturday 13 March, 2021 at Clapham Common bandstand without reasonable excuse and other than as permitted by the regulations," and that they allegedly "participated in a gathering in the Tier 4 area of London, taking place in a public outdoor space as defined in paragraph 4(4) of Schedule 3A to the regulations, namely Clapham Common bandstand and consisting of more than two people".
It comes a day after the Met Police was refused permission for a second time to appeal against a High Court ruling that said the force breached the rights of the organisers of the official vigil when it told them they faced £10,000 fines and prosecution if it went ahead.
At the High Court in March, Lord Justice Warby and Mr Justice Holgate found the Met's decisions in the run-up to the event were "not in accordance with the law".
Dismissing the appeal bid by the Met on Tuesday, Lord Justice Holroyde said in a court order he could see "no arguable basis on which it can be said that the [High] Court's decision was wrong".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-61659260
 
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AuroraSaab

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Related case here. Appalling police response:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ma...eartbreaking-case-sophie-12-year-24270662.amp
 
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glasgowcyclist

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Police Scotland also has work to do, paying the price for sexism in the workplace.

Good to see Ms Malone, a former Firearms Officer, get compensation for her awful treatment by her colleagues and the Scottish Police Federation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61895418

Police Scotland must significantly improve training around equality and diversity, a review has said.​
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The review was ordered after ex-firearms officer Rhona Malone - who had raised concerns about sexism - was paid almost £1m after an employment tribunal found she had been victimised.​
The review was carried out by the Police Service of Northern Ireland.​
The PSNI concluded that training should be focused on areas of policing where there is a "boys' club" culture.​
Police Scotland said progress on the recommendations would be reported to the Scottish Police Authority.​
Ms Malone, who was based in Edinburgh, first raised concerns about sexism within the force in 2018.​
She had received an email written by Insp Keith Warhurst saying two female firearms officers should not be deployed together when there were sufficient male staff on duty.​
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In 2020, Ms Malone told the BBC that she took her case to a tribunal because she wanted acknowledgement and accountability for the way she had been treated.​
She said she would have been "an absolute hypocrite" if she had signed the NDA. ​
The tribunal ruled in her favour in October 2021, with the £947,909.07 payout confirmed in May this year.​
The former officer described winning her tribunal as "vindication" but said Police Scotland had put her through "absolute hell".​
 
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glasgowcyclist

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Now a Met Special Constable has been charged with rape (3 x counts). It’s not clear if this refers to a single victim or multiple victims.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62104699

Special Constable Paul Hoile, 40, was arrested in Benfleet, Essex, on Wednesday night and charged on Friday.​
He has been charged with three counts of rape and one of causing a person to engage in sexual activity without consent in connection with an alleged incident in Shropshire on 5 July.​
He appeared at Kidderminster Magistrates' Court earlier where he was remanded in custody.​
The charges followed an investigation by West Mercia Police.​
Mr Hoile, who is based in the Met Police's North West Command Unit, has been suspended.​
The Met Police's Directorate of Professional Standards has been made aware of the case and it has been referred to the Independent Office for Police Conduct by both forces.​
 
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