spen666
Well-Known Member
Its not possible to insure these for use on the road as they are not lawful to use on the road
Cardiff electric bike incident
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Its not possible to insure these for use on the road as they are not lawful to use on the road
MrGrumpy
Regular
hence if you see anyone on one , they are normally riding it like they stole it !
Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
- Location
- Bugbrooke, Northants
That's certainly my understanding too. To be lawfully on the road I guess they'd need some sort of type approval followed by registration. Given these things are electrically powered variants on road or trials motorcycles then I'd have thought devising a type approval scheme should br a priority.
Have any of the mainstream m/c companies built electric bikes which are type approved in other Western countries?
Electric_Andy
Regular
The only issue I am concerned with is why the police lied in the first place about persuing, they should't have to.
illegal bike, probably nicked, mum doesn't know who's it is, lads with scabby tracksuits bought a 4k bike did they? If you choose to mess about on illegal and high performance vehicles with no protection then these things will happen. This is exactly why they are illegal for road use in the first place.
And the rest of the street smashing the place up and throwing missiles at Police because "Justiz", yeah well done. Says a lot about the local "community"
illegal bike, probably nicked, mum doesn't know who's it is, lads with scabby tracksuits bought a 4k bike did they? If you choose to mess about on illegal and high performance vehicles with no protection then these things will happen. This is exactly why they are illegal for road use in the first place.
And the rest of the street smashing the place up and throwing missiles at Police because "Justiz", yeah well done. Says a lot about the local "community"
spen666
Well-Known Member
Seems like you have already determined the police LIED
You do not know what the information was that the person making the statement had at that time
Was there even a chase? The CCTV shows a bike then a police van in a different street some time before the crash
It is too early to determine if it was a lie or not.
Getting something wrong does not mean someone has lied
MrGrumpy
Regular
Nail on head , probably knew what was coming . Dammed if they do and dammed if they don’t !
Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
- Location
- Bugbrooke, Northants
You are of course right. It may well have been a mistake where information only came together after the 'riot' when people could be properly debriefed. We don't know what happened except that, after the Commissioner said there was no chase film comes to light showing a Police vehicle clearly following what is apparently the bike with the boys on it. If no pursuit was requested and they were only following it hoping to find a chance to pull the riders then I guess in literal terms no chase.
But, but, as you say the Police have previous as long as your arm for saying 'nowt to do with us squire' until anything between hours and years later it's conclusively proven that everything was to do with them.
spen666
Well-Known Member
I am very concerned that various police forces have form for issuing incorrect information ( which almost always spins the agenda in their favour) before the full picture is realised later.
The other side of this is that each Police Force is a separate legal entity, so whether it is fair to talk about "the police" rather than specific police forces is another matter
It may well be that the Police did "lie", but at this stage it is too early to be able to make such a judgement
C R
Über Member
I think the point is whether the police had any part on the making of the tragedy.
matticus
Guru
How long is his arm?
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
It's probably not a massive stretch to assume that a police vehicle which is proceeding at pace immediately behind an illegal, unregistered motorcycle, ridden by two teenagers who are not wearing crash helmets - that vehicle doesn't just happen to be going along the same road.
matticus
Guru
What pace?
And it's still an assumption - police do sometimes end up behind dodgy road users, and choose to follow/observe them for a bit. When does that become chase/pursuit?
