COP26: All talk or some real action on climate change?
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mjr
Active Member
Rarely heard of her and "co-leader" covers hundreds of people. See FAQs - Extinction Rebellion UK – https://extinctionrebellion.uk/the-truth/faqs/ about structure and founders, perhaps, instead of believing whatever Morgan's fans write.
She makes untrue statements that are simply believed by her fans.
You've missed what I was getting at. I wasn't looking for it and doing five bar gates, but I noticed on discussions here and interviews at demos that almost without exception girls were involved. Looking at the footage of Thunberg (I didn't want to put words in her mouth) I noticed the same thing. Doesn't gel with the current 'equality' agenda.
Is there an' empowerment of women' agenda going on here, which is nothing to do with 'the science'?
Do women care more?
Are women more susceptible to the fear-mongering propaganda?
It can be done online so as to set a good example. It might be necessary for those with direct scientific and political responsibility to actually get together, but not the tens of thousands of hangers-on. It feeds my scepticism (what a word to use!) of the sincerity of those making doomsday claims.
Co-Leader, spokesperson and strategist for XR will come up as introducing who Skeena Rathor is if you google her name. It's nothing to do with Piers Morgan.
newfhouse
pleb
Do you think there may be the tiniest bit of confirmation bias here?
matticus
Guru
There is rather an overwhelming aroma of it, that's for sure.
mudsticks
Squire
Of course there's an empowerment of women agenda here.
Don't we want womens empowerment,?
Womens voices, experience, and action, are key in all this.
Especially given that women are equally, if not more impacted by climate change.
Fwiw in the organisations I'm part of its roughly 50/50 split female to male.
Maybe it looks like a larger number of women, to an outside observer, because in 'normal' circumstances, they are underrepresented.
matticus
Guru
Is that because they're nearer sea level - shorter, that is, in general?
Confirmation bias is a problem inherent right across this issue. A good place to start is to ask yourself what you want to believe. You then ask yourself if it is wise to believe that in the light of the evidence around you and a sensible precautionary principle.
The problem then is, who do you trust when looking for evidence. The fossil fuel industry and it lackeys, or scientists enjoying an unlimited gravy train of government funding? The prostitition of science for money can be true of both sides.
I have never liked the denier kind of sceptic. My scepticism about the sincerity of those taking a sceptical view has increased in recent years. Some of those taking the sceptical line are not sincere - and yes I do think they want 'business as usual' come what may.
This has not, however, led to an increased acceptance of the credibility of the doomsday predictors. I haven't forgotten climategate, with its revelation of groupthink and suppression of dissenting opinions. Have the problems since actually been remedied?
Then there is the creation of a climate (sorry) of fear and panic. The latter smacks of manipulation, and even if things are as serious as claimed panic will not help but a cool (also sorry!) head.
My current thinking fwiw is that this is a cause for concern, but not panic.
theclaud
Reading around the chip
Such as?
theclaud
Reading around the chip
LOL the scientists of my acquaintance would like to know where they can board the imaginary gravy train.
matticus
Guru
Can you offer us any crumb to show you are sincere (as opposed to a denier with a love for long speeches)?
It's very hard to distinguish between your posts, and those of a denier who simply chooses to criticise the personalities in the debate.
matticus
Guru
It's hilarious, isn't it? For all my lifetime (and probably a couple of decades before), all the easy money has been in petro-chemical industries and their offshoots.
(Fags were pretty good for a long while too ... )
mudsticks
Squire
Too true.
And those petrochemical companies still hold sway .
Now we're up against greenwash , and corporate owned tech solutions.
Exactly that ,
I'm bucking the trend here by being a fairly tall female climate activist.
The main reason I hang out with my shorter sisters is in truth so as to know when I'm in peril..
Once I start to see the bubbles rising, I know it's time to head for higher ground..
newfhouse
pleb
That was the idea.
This series of five documentaries on Radio 4 is worth a listen.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0b1r7tn
Already gave one at #191: Thunberg - has often recently said nothing is being done about climate change.
