Death penalty
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glasgowcyclist
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Would this principle apply only in murder cases or would you have knife attackers stabbed, rapists raped? Either way, it’s not the mark of a civilised society.
I didn’t say that it was but you didn’t use the word murder, you used the phrase “A person who values life so little as to take it can hardly complain if they forfeit their own“, which is what I was addressing.
If the taking of a life (other than in self-defence) is wrong, then so is judicial execution and for that the executioner surely “forfeits his own”.
BoldonLad
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multitool
Pharaoh
Too much playing the man and not the ball for my taste.
All that tells us is that you'd prefer the taste of ball.
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C R
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I wouldn't go that far.
Bromptonaut
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Oh yes it is...
icowden
Squire
Actually @Unkraut is correct. Judicial execution just like killing in a war, is not murder as such as it is lawful.
Murder is an unlawful premeditated or intended killing (at least by UK considerations).
Whether Judicial killing is moral or right is another topic entirely. I don't believe that it is either.
multitool
Pharaoh
Some of you* will be familiar with Karl Popper's Falsification Principle which is a way of demarcating science from non-science. It suggests that for a theory to be considered scientific it must be able to be tested and conceivably proven false. For example, the hypothesis that "all swans are white," can be falsified by observing a black swan.
In moral philosophy we have the Oakeshott Test, which is a means of determining whether an act is likely to be moral, or not. To apply the Test one needs the view of the act from the perspective of Isabel Oakeshott. If one finds oneself to have a more moderate position than Oakeshott, the act can be considered likely to be immoral, if the converse is true and one's position is more extreme than Oakeshott's then the act is logically immoral.
*no, not you, shep.
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Oh no it isn't.......
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You ever worked in or know anyone who has worked in a Prison?
Bromptonaut
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Know/know of a few people who tried it out but not sure ANY of them stuck it as a career.
The fact that UK prisons are not reforming people is down to the way they're funded and run.
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Exactly, they're not reforming people so to state that's what they're meant to do is a pointless comment.
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newfhouse
pleb
But they could do much better if there was the will and the investment.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-48885846
spen666
Well-Known Member
Nonsense
Because somebody isn't doing something well doesn't mean that is not what they are supposed to do.
It's like saying because Liverpool are not winning the Premier League that that is not their ain
