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No, he is male with DSD .
IOC clinging onto dei as most other
Sporting bodies have recognised, males and females need to be separate in sports.
Gender again. Sorry!
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No, he is male with DSD .
IOC clinging onto dei as most other
Sporting bodies have recognised, males and females need to be separate in sports.
monkers
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Try getting off Russian propaganda sites farkwit.
During the 2024 Olympic Games, after beating Italy’s Angela Carini, Khelif has been the subject of false claims that she is a male-to-female transgender woman. Algeria is an Islamic country in which gender transition is illegal.[3] A Russian media report incorrectly claimed that it is proven that she has a Y chromosome.[4] The International Olympic Committee (IOC) and the Paris Boxing Unit published a joint statement affirming her eligibility to compete, and described many reports as misleading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imane_Khelif#2022:_IBA_Championships_final_and_boxing_successes
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The public aren't interested, it's the person has XY, confirmed. Therefore is male, banned from women's events.
Mokgadi Caster Semenya is banned from female competitions
He has XY
Mokgadi Caster Semenya is banned from female competitions
He has XY
AuroraSaab
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Khelif has never claimed to be a transwoman. That isn't the issue. It's whether they are genetically male, as claimed by the IBA.
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It's amazing how many posters on Mumsnet and elsewhere think Khelif is trans.
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Nandy, say watching male beat up females boxer 'uncomfortable'
No sh!t Sherlock. Has the penny dropped now
No sh!t Sherlock. Has the penny dropped now
monkers
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Sad to hear that she is no brighter than a simpleton like you.
I'll believe it when I see the evidence. The IOPC continue to say the entry criteria is met. Assigned female at birth - not trans.
The problem for all you numpties is that between you, you can't agree what a woman is. Apparently it's anything that Rowling thinks it might be. Though she is an expert on 'magical thinking' we might agree. Though I think her Potter books were absolute crap.
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Youve been told this before about mistakes in confirming sex at birth with DSD.
You don't assign, you confirm usually with observation. But some will need a DNA swap to confirm they are actually something different
monkers
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I agree ''sex assigned at birth' is a silly phase. It is not my invention or to my liking, but it prevails.
Until it is confirmed that she has a DSD (which it isn't) then she remains a cis woman.
The fighter you allege has a DSD and beats up women for sport, has been defeated by other women fighters nine times, including one Irish boxer who says that her opponent had done nothing wrong.
I know next to nothing about boxing, but I remember what Ali used to say; along the lines of 'don't get hit, or be good at soaking up punches'.
Crying within 46 seconds that your opponent hit you and it hurt, sounds pretty feeble to me (for a pro fighter).
AuroraSaab
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No. They remain the sex they were at birth.
Let's do a swab test and clarify the situation once and for all.
Unfair advantage isn't decided by outcome. Outstanding female athletes will beat mediocre male ones. It doesn't mean the males didn't have an advantage.
Did Lance Armstrong have an unfair advantage only in the doped races that he won, or all the races he was doping in?
Does this enhance your knowledge at all?
Men have 162% greater punching power than women.
What a nasty piece of work you are. You really are despicable.
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I'm sure you would be crying within 5 seconds if punched by a trained boxer. There is no shame in admitting men are far more powerful when it comes to physical attack
classic33
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You've previously argued that trans men should be in the men's section, in sports. And that men should have no problem accepting them, as they pose no threat to men.
Why is he different?
classic33
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Who do you think you are you to be making demands like that?
How many races was that, simple number will do. Don't sidestep the question.
You've finally taken a long, hard look in that mirror!
AuroraSaab
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No, I have not. That is a lie.
Transmen are women and should (and almost invariably do) compete in the Womens category. If they choose, and are allowed, to compete in the Men's category they would have no advantage.
classic33
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It's not a lie and you have said both things. More than once.
You seem to have problems remembering what you've said, again.
