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monkers

Shaman
So what. No prison is a 100% safe space. Women's prisons are where we put criminal women. Where else would they go?
Men's prisons are where we put criminal men.

Where people go is determined by risk assessment regardless of sex. If I were to ask you for the list of offences of trans women against women in HMP Downview, I suppose you are able to provide a list?
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
Being of the male sex is a relevant risk factor, arguably the greatest risk factor statistically. That's why they did away with mixed sex prisons 200 years ago. I don't need to know their crimes either, only that they are male.
If the crimes of these men was the main relevant issue we would put other non violent men who had committed low level crimes in women's prisons. We don't.
 

monkers

Shaman
Being of the male sex is a relevant risk factor, arguably the greatest risk factor statistically. That's why they did away with mixed sex prisons 200 years ago. I don't need to know their crimes either, only that they are male.
If the crimes of these men was the main relevant issue we would put other non violent men who had committed low level crimes in women's prisons. We don't.

That is just bias and not how the law functions. A statement like that will have you quickly removed from any jury.
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
This is a forum not a jury. If the crime committed was the most relevant factor, not sex, there would be no reason why a male very low risk, minor offender wouldn't be placed in a women's jail. They aren't though because we all know why certain circumstances require separation by sex. You can pretend you don't know this or pretend these men are harmless or low risk. The fact is they are men and as such should be accommodated in the male estate, in their own wing if considered too vulnerable for the male general population.
 

monkers

Shaman
You can pretend you don't know this or pretend these men are harmless or low risk.

There is the same untruth for a second time now. Even within the space of a forum, if one makes a claim, then one is obliged to substantiate it. You can not substantiate any of this. Your position is one of bias and bluster - nothing else.
 
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