Ian H
Legendary Member
https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/what-is-autism/autism-and-gender-identity
It does appear that autistic people have their own ideas about gender. Who'd have thought it!
Gender again. Sorry!
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It does appear that autistic people have their own ideas about gender. Who'd have thought it!
winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Reported / diagnosed autism may be higher in children referred to gender clinics than in the general population but I would hypothesise that those children are more likely to have gone through the diagnostic process. Which, to be clear, is traumatic enough.
But yeah, stop trying to force people into little boxes they don't fit and let's see where we get.
winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Funny that.
monkers
Legendary Member
We need to know more or this is not meaningful data.
A diagnosis of autism does not of itself lead to a conclusion of lower functioning. Aspergers Syndrome is often indicated by higher functioning individuals.
I worked in a special school at one time for a number of years. The school conducted specialist services in-house - being a private school.
The school was a specialist school for those with dyslexia with an international reputation for outstanding results. Here's the thing, many of our learners were referred due to difficulties with reading and writing, too often the UK (and some other states) proved to be reluctant to intervene due to funding issues. The school's testing regimes frequently found conditions comorbid with the learners' dyslexia, quite frequently some traits of autism that were previously undiagnosed. Therefore the school would appear to have rising rates of autism among its learners, which on one inspection caused one inspector to assume that autism was some kind of contagion within the school. Thankfully the school managers were able to straighten out this inspector before the report was published.
Whether children and young people are considered for medical purposes is not based on what diagnosis for certain conditions are, but by their Gillick competence. It is perfectly possible to have a cohort consisting 100% of young people said to be 'on the autism spectrum' and for everyone of them to over the age of thirteen and be Gillick competent and therefore meet the legal requirement for them to have control of their healthcare.
So you see, I'm not going to buy into this scare narrative that a high incidence of young people with autism makes all of that number vulnerable to interventionism. It doesn't.
At the same school there was a young learner. She had diagnoses for dyslexia, autism, and defiant oppositional disorder. She also had a heart condition meaning that the school had to ensure that she did not participate in activities that would lead to a heart rate above a given level. She wore a monitor.
When she reached her thirteenth birthday, she asked to be tested for Gillick competence. She came out as fifteen. She removed her monitor and removed herself from the waiting list for heart surgery. Despite the many protests she continued in school on that basis. Today, fifteen years later, she and I are fb friends. She qualified as a nurse, and is now married with two healthy children (twin girls).
On the other hand I know one person, not from the same setting, who had also had comorbid conditions including autism. She had been taken into care, her father was later placed on the sex offenders register. My own judgement from her complex pattern of behaviours was that she was not emotionally stable to complete transition without more support. She used a NHS GIC and completed transition in a number of years. Neither the GIC or the final assessment panel picked up on her conditions or concealed emotional state. Despite my own concerns she has not detransitioned, not offended, but has made some serious errors of judgement.
The GICs, like the TC are seriously under-resourced and under performing.
You and I may share some concerns, but we part company in how those concerns are managed.
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multitool
Pharaoh
Anyway, this is funny as fùck...
View: https://twitter.com/JaneyGodley/status/1638121071785148418?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/JaneyGodley/status/1638121071785148418?s=20
monkers
Legendary Member
Why not? People going after soft targets. Some people are qu
Rated hilarious.
icowden
Squire
It shouldn't but on the other hand autism should be a strong indicator that people might not need help. People on the spectrum tend to be quite honest and to assume that if they are told something that the person telling them is telling them the absolute truth. We very often don't notice when we are told untruths or can be led quite a long way down the garden path before realising that something is amiss.
AuroraSaab
Squire
Makes a change from when Janey used to tweet about Jews having big noses because air is free and call disabled people spazzes, I suppose. You certainly dig up the best people to support the cause.
monkers
Legendary Member
Irrelevant - she didn't create the content.
classic33
Me
Nice to know that some still harbour old ideas, and are willing to use them.
Excuse will probably be along the lines that it's what someone else used to use. Doesn't make it right to use it now though.
multitool
Pharaoh
Weird response. What has Janey Gidley got to do with anything?
Or are just just desperate to deflect any criticism from your Nazi-loving colleague?
AuroraSaab
Squire
In what way is KJK my colleague? Only in the mind of men like you who think women are an homogenous group, none of whom can think for themselves. You don't even think women are individual human beings do you. Not only do you hold women responsible for what men do, they're responsible for what other women do too lol.
Just funny how the people you choose to highlight on here always turn out to be dodgy. There are some sensible commentators but instead you choose to post a nonce adjacent artist, someone who transes dead dsd people and distributes prescription drugs, and a comedian trying to claw back a career after being caught out posting racist stuff.
By your metric if KJK is my colleague they must be your besties because I don't post her stuff but you post theirs.
Just funny how the people you choose to highlight on here always turn out to be dodgy. There are some sensible commentators but instead you choose to post a nonce adjacent artist, someone who transes dead dsd people and distributes prescription drugs, and a comedian trying to claw back a career after being caught out posting racist stuff.
By your metric if KJK is my colleague they must be your besties because I don't post her stuff but you post theirs.
icowden
Squire
To be fair, she took full ownership of her comments and apologised for them and is currently dealing with cancer. She's not doing much clawing.
