Gender again. Sorry!

[AuroraSaab]

I don't really find this. I do have good friendships with women, but I have a greater number of good friendships with men. With some exceptions, I find female-only groups more challenging company than mixed ones or even male ones. Perhaps not everyone has the same unproblematic experiences of gendered socialisation that you do.

I've always had a mixed friendship group. Until my teens my closest friends were all boys. I think having children is often a bond forming experience for women though and I would say that has been a factor in my closest friends now being female. I think there's a sense in which our culture encourages younger women to see other women as rivals, but I've found that far less so as I've got older. I do think friendships with males can be easier in some ways as they are often more casual and simple.

 

[Ian H]

I don't really find this. I do have good friendships with women, but I have a greater number of good friendships with men. With some exceptions, I find female-only groups more challenging company than mixed ones or even male ones. Perhaps not everyone has the same unproblematic experiences of gendered socialisation that you do.

Female friends of mine have voiced similar experiences. Perhaps coincidentally, they are all well-educated, physically active people with robustly expressed opinions.

 

[AuroraSaab]

My initial thoughts, having read the translations in the comments, are that this is a family party so perhaps not so relevant to discussion about how non familial male friendships develop and whether those who transition find support within the wider community. They certainly seem happy, though most detransitioners say they experienced euphoria and/or relief after certain stages in their transition, eg first shots of testosterone, after their mastectomy. I genuinely hope they continue to be as happy as they are in the video and that long term it proved to be the right decision.

I might watch it again a few times later on and have a think about it a bit more.

 

[newfhouse]

When trans panic and FIFA collide.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jun/12/sweden-players-had-to-show-their-genitalia-at-2011-womens-world-cup-says-nilla-fischer

 

[AuroraSaab]

Doesn't mention transgender athletes at all. Dsd athletes? Either way Fifa made a hash of it.

 

[Ian H]

If only there was a way of copy/pasting text at an easily readable size. Perhaps even with links to an original.

 

[AuroraSaab]

It's as quick to do a screenshot from the linked article as to copy and paste text from it. Sorry if the barely discernible increase in size hurt your eyes. I'll try to remember you struggle to read anything but the Arial font in future.

 

[Ian H]

It's as quick to do a screenshot from the linked article as to copy and paste text from it. Sorry if the barely discernible increase in size hurt your eyes. I'll try to remember you struggle to read anything but the Arial font in future.

It also gives the impression you're trying to hide your sources.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Hide my sources? My screenshot is the last paragraph of the Guardian article that Newfhouse linked to in his post. It's his source. What would be the point me putting another link to the same article? Surely you recognised it if you had read his link?

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Hide my sources? My screenshot is the last paragraph of the Guardian article that Newfhouse linked to in his post. It's his source. What would be the point me putting another link to the same article? Surely you recognised it if you had read his link?

Hot weather - tires a chap out, doesn't it.
To be fair to Ian the font looked much larger on a PC screen.

 

[theclaud]

When trans panic and FIFA collide.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jun/12/sweden-players-had-to-show-their-genitalia-at-2011-womens-world-cup-says-nilla-fischer

Unfortunately Aurora's not interested in the grotesque misogynist history of gender verification in sport, because if she gave it a moment's consideration she'd have to start thinking about the bigger picture. Talking of which, as self-appointed prisons expert I'm sure she'll be along any minute to discuss the jailing of a woman in the UK for 28 months for ending a pregnancy.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Unfortunately Aurora's not interested in the grotesque misogynist history of gender verification in sport, because if she gave it a moment's consideration she'd have to start thinking about the bigger picture. Talking of which, as self-appointed prisons expert I'm sure she'll be along any minute to discuss the jailing of a woman in the UK for 28 months for ending a pregnancy.

Is she to blame for that as well as posting a large font?

 

[theclaud]

Is she to blame for that as well as posting a large font?

LOL the font doesn't look too monstrous on my phone so it's a meh from me on that. I don't believe she's actually interested in a feminist analysis of either sport or the carceral system tho.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

carceral

That's enough learning for today - off out on the bike.

 

[matticus]

That's enough learning for today - off out on the bike.

Bob didn't know what carceral means!!!