Gender again. Sorry!

[monkers]

The jiu-jitsu thing has come to light precisely because it is an issue in other countries and Navratilova is rightly calling out the British org for having similar policies. The scientific evidence is clear that transwomen retain sporting advantages even after taking hormones, so the idea that they should be allowed in the women's category is unfair, and in the case of physical sports like martial arts, dangerous.

... and of course chess, where again trans women have a biological advantage of male brains compared with our feeble female ones.

 

[AuroraSaab]

The reason for separate chess comps for women is the same reason there are special scholarships and opportunities for women in STEM subjects. It's to encourage participation by women in areas in which they have historically been underrepresented. That principle is undermined when you let men enter. Nothing to do with women being better or worse at these subjects than men.

Presumably you're against book prizes for black authors and so on as it's the same principle.

 

[monkers]

The reason for separate chess comps for women is the same reason there are special scholarships and opportunities for women in STEM subjects. It's to encourage participation by women in areas in which they have historically been underrepresented. That principle is undermined when you let men enter. Nothing to do with women being better or worse at these subjects than men.

Presumably you're against book prizes for black authors and so on as it's the same principle.

Stuff and nonsense in relation to chess - just words made to support bigotry.

 

[Deleted member 159]

You posted a thing about British ju jitsu, which hasn't had an issue with trans participants.

Navratilova got it wrong, so did you.

Dope.

It was the policy in place, not the participants.

However trans could have fought against women.

The consequences like the MMA woman fighter are obvious

 

[AuroraSaab]

Stuff and nonsense in relation to chess - just words made to support bigotry.

Women and girls account for less than 20% of members of most western chess federations. There are no male and female competitions, just mixed ones and a limited number of women only ones. Female only comps encourage women and girls to take part and raise the profile and encourage the development of the womens game, just like STEM events/opportunities for women do and just like prizes, scholarships, events for other underrepresented groups do.

It's not bigotry in any of those examples for people not in that demographic to be excluded. The fact that some men get upset when they are told No is nothing new though.

It's Martina Navratilova's birthday today. I hope she has a great day.

 

[Deleted member 159]

It's Martina Navratilova's birthday today. I hope she has a great day

Happy birthday

 

[Deleted member 159]

Another fine upstanding trans -not

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/18/paedophile-andrew-miller-jailed-edinburgh-sentencing/

 

[AndyRM]

It was the policy in place, not the participants.

However trans could have fought against women.

The consequences like the MMA woman fighter are obvious

Yeah. But they didn't in Britain. So, what the f*ck relevance this has is beyond me.

 

[Deleted member 159]

 

[monkers]

Another fine upstanding trans -not

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/18/paedophile-andrew-miller-jailed-edinburgh-sentencing/

Another fine upstanding cis - not.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/gosport-pensioner-appears-court-over-134616657.html

You know it's pretty boring this game of top trumps. Happening to be cis, trans, straight, gay, christian, atheist, whatever makes no difference. There are all people complete with personality traits, character flaws, etc regardless of personal characteristics.

 

[icowden]

Another fine upstanding cis - not.

You seem to be suggesting that sex with a dog is equally as bad as kidnapping and raping a child whilst dressed as a woman...

 

[icowden]

Stuff and nonsense in relation to chess - just words made to support bigotry.

So you don't support initiatives to improve access to sports for women?

 

[monkers]

So you don't support initiatives to improve access to sports for women?

Chess is a boardgame rather than a sport. I have no objection to separate amateur clubs to promote women's participation, but the idea that trans women are not woman enough to play amateur chess with other women is absurd. Also banning trans women from playing elite level international chess is absurd given the explanation that it must do so to follow the path of elite level sport. What male biological advantage do trans women have to be able to play chess - are the piece that exhausting to lift and move?
It's actually insulting to women.

Neither does AS's analogy about STEM subjects cut the mustard either. It's one thing to have schemes to increase the number of women enrolling in STEM subjects, but they are not enrolling in women only classes; therefore this is obfuscation and again smacks of bigotry.

 

[monkers]

You seem to be suggesting that sex with a dog is equally as bad as kidnapping and raping a child whilst dressed as a woman...

Don't be such a prick - only a farking moron would think I'm suggesting such a thing - and you are not, so have a word with yourself.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Yeah. But they didn't in Britain. So, what the f*ck relevance this has is beyond me.

So when it doesn't fit you narrative it isn't relevant? ok then...