Gender again. Sorry!

[monkers]

Great. We'll hear no more pretending that the ones who are arrested aren't genuinely trans then.

More lies. You really are unable to stop yourself. Did you hear the voices of the cult leaders in your ears when you typed that?

People with any single or combination of personal characteristics commit crimes. However when asked how many women with a GRC have committed crimes of harming women before going to prison, or while imprisoned on the female estate in say the last five years - what you can't answer?

But here's your chance to answer the questions again. How many exactly, what are the numbers from official data? (anticipates the usual anti-trans hate rant with no answer to the questions, and/or deflections/distractions and appeals to her paranoic sensibilities).

 

[AndyRM]

All your opinions are "mainstream opinions" according to you.

Which is funny considering he mostly posts from niche media outlets which promote fringe viewpoints...

 

[multitool]

Which is funny considering he mostly posts from niche media outlets which promote fringe viewpoints...

It's the famous 'silent majority'

 

[AuroraSaab]

However when asked how many women with a GRC have committed crimes of harming women before going to prison, or while imprisoned on the female estate in say the last five years - what you can't answer? But here's your chance to answer the questions again. How many exactly, what are the numbers from official data? (anticipates the usual anti-trans hate rant with no answer to the questions, and/or deflections/distractions and appeals to her paranoic sensibilities).

The MOJ don't provide data on those with GRC's as far as I know. They are counted in the female stats. Looks like you're going down the 'only those with a GRC are transwomen' route again. Completely contradicting the You are who you say you are mantra you insisted on before.

The yoyo effect, while harmful to trans people, will eventually show the Cass report, though useful in parts, to be contaminated with personal bias. The recent bans on trans people in non-elite level sport will start to be reversed again. New research, as it arrives, will serve to dismantle the cultist arguments.

Seems unlikely. In the UK anyway there is not going to be a going back to the days of transwoman's Joanne Harper's 8 person study being considered enough by the IOC to allow men in the Women's category, elite or otherwise. Some US and Canadian sports orgs have admitted they are putting inclusion above fairness so it will be individual states who decide there.

Weird how unreliable you find independent scientific research as evidence but how compelling you find subjective personal experience.

 

[monkers]

The MOJ don't provide data on those with GRC's as far as I know. They are counted in the female stats. Looks like you're going down the 'only those with a GRC are transwomen' route again. Completely contradicting the You are who you say you are mantra you insisted on before.

That's right without a shred of reliable evidence you've made exaggerated claims over an extended period. Further, the MoJ said that the number is so small that revealing any data they have would lead people to easily be able to jigsaw their identities. It's not that the don't have the data, but that they won't provide it for that reason.

 

[monkers]

Seems unlikely. In the UK anyway there is not going to be a going back to the days of transwoman's Joanne Harper's 8 person study being considered enough by the IOC to allow men in the Women's category, elite or otherwise. Some US and Canadian sports orgs have admitted they are putting inclusion above fairness so it will be individual states who decide there.

Weird how unreliable you find independent scientific research as evidence but how compelling you find subjective personal experience.

Really. Oh you should see this, no doubt you'll be spitting feathers ... and of course making stuff up ...

Transgender female athletes are at a physical disadvantage compared to cisgender women in several key metrics, research funded by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) has found.

The landmark study reported that physically active transgender women performed worse in certain cardiovascular tests and had less lower-body strength than their cisgender females. Researchers at the University of Brighton also found that, contrary to previous claims, transgender women’s bone density was equivalent to cisgender females. Bone density is linked to muscle strength.

https://sports.yahoo.com/transgender-sportswomen-disadvantage-study-claims-155443075.htm

Kansas governor vetoes a ban on gender-affirming care​

The Democratic governor of Kansas vetoed a bill Friday that would have banned gender-affirming care for minors

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/13/kansas-transgender-ban-veto/

The yoyo effect continues.

 

[icowden]

Who was the leader of the anti-vaxx cult?

Again, not really a cult but many would say that it was Andrew Wakefield and his research into MMR and Autism.

 

[icowden]

Really. Oh you should see this, no doubt you'll be spitting feathers ... and of course making stuff up ...
https://sports.yahoo.com/transgender-sportswomen-disadvantage-study-claims-155443075.htm

Why? I'm not sure that study is the slam dunk you think it is. It's certainly interesting, but it doesn't suggest that all transwomen do not have an advntage in all women's sports, only that some advantages may be smaller than thought, and there may be some disadvantages that haven't been considered. It also suggests that further research is needed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/13/kansas-transgender-ban-veto/
The yoyo effect continues.

Most of us can't read this article. Care to summarise? On the surface it again doesn't seem like a massive issue.

 

[monkers]

Why? I'm not sure that study is the slam dunk you think it is. It's certainly interesting, but it doesn't suggest that all transwomen do not have an advntage in all women's sports, only that some advantages may be smaller than thought, and there may be some disadvantages that haven't been considered. It also suggests that further research is needed.


Most of us can't read this article. Care to summarise? On the surface it again doesn't seem like a massive issue.

Slam dunk? I never said it was, I said there is a yoyo effect.

The summary is the bit I quoted. Recent anti-trans laws in the USA are getting reversed - it's a big deal for trans people in the USA. But you make the point, it has little to no effect on other people, they don't notice because human rights law for trans people doesn't impact their lives.

 

[multitool]

Again, not really a cult but many would say that it was Andrew Wakefield and his research into MMR and Autism.

Wut?

That was years ago. I'm talking about the covidian cult. There wasn't a leader, but there were people who exploited fear to their advantage. Ditto the anti-trans cult. Helen Joyce is making a career out of it, so is Minshull.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2024/04/12/ioc-accused-new-low-funding-study-transgender-women/

Ross Tucker's not too impressed.

 

[Deleted member 159]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2024/04/12/ioc-accused-new-low-funding-study-transgender-women/

Ross Tucker's not too impressed.

I read the report, it read like IOC are desperate.

 

[monkers]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2024/04/12/ioc-accused-new-low-funding-study-transgender-women/

Ross Tucker's not too impressed.

To paraphrase events ...

''There's no evidence that means that transition makes competition with trans women fair for women''.

The IOC says agrees ''there is no evidence that trans women can fairly compete with women''.

The IOC effectively bans trans women.

''The IOC are heroes for banning trans women''.

Seb Coe of the IOC says that ''a ban can only be justified at the highest level of sport; ie the Olympics.''

The IOC commissions research for evidence.

Now, ''the IOC are scum''.

And so it goes.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Now, ''the IOC are scum''.

Is that a quote? From who?

 

[monkers]

Is that a quote? From who?

Kindly note my first three words. Something similar will soon come.