Gender again. Sorry!

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

To suggest that trans women subject themselves to medical transition via surgeries and hormones in order to sexually predate on women is so obviously stupid. Following transition they can't. Or are going to go into one of your silly 'floppy penis' rants again?

Is it? There are quite a few examples of the lengths predoratory persons are willing to go to achieve their perdatory behavior. Far beyond having an ''floppy penis'' like for example recently that ''extreme body modification cult'' recently
Seems to me that faking transgenderism can be right up that alley, just as transition on itself will not change perdoratory behavior.

 

[Deleted member 159]

To suggest that trans women subject themselves to medical transition via surgeries and hormones in order to sexually predate on women is so obviously stupid

Yet men will do almost anything to get access to females


View: https://youtu.be/OBQnX7F0TG4?si=un9EpRv49ZsHLEzS

 

[Deleted member 159]

This judge is what I would describe as a VF


View: https://youtu.be/RVptH9ZvS_c?si=AJFi8StCvVb3YND2

 

[monkers]

Is it? There are quite a few examples of the lengths predoratory persons are willing to go to achieve their perdatory behavior. Far beyond having an ''floppy penis'' like for example recently that ''extreme body modification cult'' recently
Seems to me that faking transgenderism can be right up that alley, just as transition on itself will not change perdoratory behavior.

Yeh right. I should have anticipated that you would be one of those daft enough to believe that creepy predatory men spend two years in transition, have their ''dicks cut off'' to use the language of the stupid, and make the government aware of who they are by obtaining a GRC in order to be able to get close to women and rape them.

 

[multitool]

She thinks the existence of a few trans women is "the greatest assault on women's rights" in her lifetime.

Truly brainwashed by the GC cult.

Not a word from her about the real issues that affect women.

 

[monkers]

This judge is what I would describe as a VF


View: https://youtu.be/RVptH9ZvS_c?si=AJFi8StCvVb3YND2

Against my better judgement I listened to most of the content of the links. I should have known better. The case did not involve a trans woman with a GRC committing rape or getting closer to women in the UK. Instead you found an outlier case in the states where a person with a history of sex offending, with an intact penis did not sexually assault women, but used the internet to distribute child porn.

I guess you did this, because you could not find a relevant case ie, a case in the UK where a trans woman had raped or sexually assaulted a woman. Desperate stuff, and I should have known better than waste my time.

 

[AndyRM]

This judge is what I would describe as a VF


View: https://youtu.be/RVptH9ZvS_c?si=AJFi8StCvVb3YND2

Ooooh, fun, what's a VF?

Violent femme?

 

[AndyRM]

Against my better judgement I listened to most of the content of the links. I should have known better. The case did not involve a trans woman with a GRC committing rape or getting closer to women in the UK. Instead you found an outlier case in the states where a person with a history of sex offending, with an intact penis did not sexually assault women, but used the internet to distribute child porn.

I guess you did this, because you could not find a relevant case ie, a case in the UK where a trans woman had raped or sexually assaulted a woman. Desperate stuff, and I should have known better than waste my time.

I only watched the first one, and like most of the tripe he posts I wondered what the hell the point he thought these videos prove is...

 

[AuroraSaab]

As usual I'm telling you what the law says, and making it known that how you interpret the law is utter bollocks. A person born male without a GRC remains legally male. A person born male with a GRC is legally female. Despite your fraudulent claims, I've never said otherwise.

Yet they have the protection of the law under the Equality Act without a GRC. This distinction you are trying to make between men with a certificate and men without, simply so you can say the ones without can't be counted in the crime stats, is nonsense.

How many trans women have sexually predated on women. Of those, how many are in the female prison estate?

The stats have on where they are held have been posted numerous times. See that last chart for the numbers.

I think she was having a go at me for using official figures. The number of trans women prisoners with a court issued Gender Recognition Certificate, being held in a prison that matches the Gender Reconstruction Certificate. Official figures, which disprove the claim she's made.

You didn't provide enough figures. How many transwomen are there in Ireland? Sounds like you are going down the 'You're only trans if you have a certificate' route. This is the opposite of the 'innate from birth ...you are who you say you are ... people know who they are..' line that we've seen throughout this thread.

I wonder why she doesn't include trans men in her figures, as there's more trans men in prison (the male estate) than there are trans women.

Are transmen dangerous to male prisoners? I think they should be in the female estate for their own safety but they aren't statistically a danger to male prisoners.

This 'You're only trans with a certificate' is an interesting turn of events. It really is a complete flip flop on what we've had throughout the thread.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Yeh right. I should have anticipated that you would be one of those daft enough to believe that creepy predatory men spend two years in transition, have their ''dicks cut off'' to use the language of the stupid, and make the government aware of who they are by obtaining a GRC in order to be able to get close to women and rape them.

The only one being daft is you, if you make an law anylaw you need to make it to make it in such a way it can't be or makes it harder to be abused.
My point about ''having their dicks cutt off'' in your language is not like you claim so they would ''transition to rape women'' it was just to inducate that you ''floppy dicks'' argument is nonsense. I also nowhere stated their weapon of abuse would be rape.

But the main point of my post you ignored that is that despite your whole ''floppy dicks'' explanations earlier there is best of my knowledge no real evidence abusive persons turn into sweethearts if they transition.
All your post assume they do, not saying all transgender persons are evil, also not saying all abusive a-holes will abuse the law and transition, so they can continue. I am saying of the loophole is there it need to be considerate, and safeguard needs to be in place. The example of ''extreme body modification'' was mainly to indicate that having a ''floppy dick'' or in the last case no dick at all even does not mean they would change their behavior.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Not a word from her about the real issues that affect women.

If you think that men in women's sports, jails, and rape counselling centres aren't real issues then I think that says a lot about what you think of women.

If you look at JK Rowling's comments and how she spends her charitable donations you'll find your comment is a bit 'What have the Romans ever done for us?'.

 

[multitool]

Hi Martha

 

[monkers]

Yet they have the protection of the law under the Equality Act without a GRC. This distinction you are trying to make between men with a certificate and men without, simply so you can say the ones without can't be counted in the crime stats, is nonsense.

I grant you that people who have no idea about anything will fail to see the difference. People with functioning brain cells will quickly understand that you are keen to demonise a cohort of people, and yet you can not produce evidence to back up your claims.

The only one being daft is you, if you make an law anylaw you need to make it to make it in such a way it can't be or makes it harder to be abused.
My point about ''having their dicks cutt off'' in your language is not like you claim so they would ''transition to rape women'' it was just to inducate that you ''floppy dicks'' argument is nonsense. I also nowhere stated their weapon of abuse would be rape.

But the main point of my post you ignored that is that despite your whole ''floppy dicks'' explanations earlier there is best of my knowledge no real evidence abusive persons turn into sweethearts if they transition.
All your post assume they do, not saying all transgender persons are evil, also not saying all abusive a-holes will abuse the law and transition, so they can continue. I am saying of the loophole is there it need to be considerate, and safeguard needs to be in place. The example of ''extreme body modification'' was mainly to indicate that having a ''floppy dick'' or in the last case no dick at all even does not mean they would change their behavior.

You seriously need to have a word with yourself. I have never been in the position of just changing the law to suit myself; nor has any MP.

The UK changed the law in 2003 because it received a directive from the European Court of Justice that it must do so in order to respect the human rights of UK citizens. The law was passed by UK parliament. I've never been an MP.

 

[monkers]

The only one being daft is you, if you make an law anylaw you need to make it to make it in such a way it can't be or makes it harder to be abused.
My point about ''having their dicks cutt off'' in your language is not like you claim so they would ''transition to rape women'' it was just to inducate that you ''floppy dicks'' argument is nonsense. I also nowhere stated their weapon of abuse would be rape.

But the main point of my post you ignored that is that despite your whole ''floppy dicks'' explanations earlier there is best of my knowledge no real evidence abusive persons turn into sweethearts if they transition.
All your post assume they do, not saying all transgender persons are evil, also not saying all abusive a-holes will abuse the law and transition, so they can continue. I am saying of the loophole is there it need to be considerate, and safeguard needs to be in place. The example of ''extreme body modification'' was mainly to indicate that having a ''floppy dick'' or in the last case no dick at all even does not mean they would change their behavior.

The ''having their dicks cut off' and ''floppy penises'' are not my words - that's what speech marks indicate. Every day's a school day for some of you.

 

[monkers]

If you think that men in women's sports, jails, and rape counselling centres aren't real issues then I think that says a lot about what you think of women.

If you look at JK Rowling's comments and how she spends her charitable donations you'll find your comment is a bit 'What have the Romans ever done for us?'.

I always think that is undemocratic - people with money using their money to give themselves political platform. I give money to the local hospice and to a charity for homeless people. I don't use it to for lobbying, which is effectively what Rowling has become, a political lobbyist prepared to spend her wealth to get her own way.