Gender again. Sorry!

[classic33]

My concern would be that in a male prison they will be raped and assaulted, not that their presence will upset or frighten male prisoners. Surely even you can see that a female in a male prison is not the same risk as a male in a female jail. The risk is to themselves only, which is why in places like California the request to move to a jail that fits their gender identity is almost exclusively men seeking to move to women's jails. You know why that is just as much as I do.

Your concern at the time you raised the fact, was that it was just another case of a trans person in prison. One of three in the prison system at that time. Which you claimed made them a risk to every other prisoner there.
You even seemed to take a perverse delight in pointing out that they were only allowed out of their cell for an hour a day. That they needed to be escorted by two prison officers during this time, "proved" your point of them being a danger to every other inmate.

And it wasn't in California either.

 

[multitool]

Aurora wants different questions to be asked, because she doesn't like the answers she's getting...

 

[classic33]

Then do a proper survey with specific questions, not asking about something in relation to something else. When they do the answers are almost always that people want single sex spaces. Apart from that single question on that survey you found once, the 51% on the bog question....



You don't think people still want single sex spaces, nor do they agree with the conclusions of the Cass Report?

You don't think disabled women don't want same sex carers or a guarantee that their rape counsellor will be female? Or that their daughters won't be playing against males?

Here's a nice article. It's the woman that you thought used to be a man - Dr Helen - talking about how her private, unregulated now because it's abroad, Gender GP company has provided hormones to between 10,000 and 30,0000 people (she doesn't seem to know), many of them children.

They use AI now to do the health assessment, including reading blood tests.


https://archive.ph/GHEQu

GenderGP is registered in the UK, although Webberley is no longer showing as part of it. Resigned in 2019.

As regards obtaining medication without being seen by anyone, it's a thriving business. Usually carried out by individuals or small groups wanting to cash in on the fact that some drugs aren't legal everywhere, or that some people have self diagnosed via one of the many health sites available that provide genuine help. They make their symptoms match those on the sites, then convince themselves that what they need is "that one" and their worries will be over. Problems arise when a prescription is required to obtain them, and to legally have possession of them. Or they're not licensed for use in UK, so no-one should have them legally.

Check cannabis oil, until very recent times it was illegal for any use in the UK. But it was the only medication that eased the seizure rate for one person. Their mother was arrested twice bringing it into this country from Canada. The first arrest was made following a direct flight, Canada to the UK. The second via the Netherlands. The arrests forced a rethink of the import of it into this country, for certain conditions. Later making it available as a last resort medication that could be prescribed here.
As for other medications, there's always someone willing to provide you with them, at cost of course.

And just because GenderGP PTE Ltd isn't regulated by UK authorities, does not mean it is unregulated. She is still registered as a doctor in the UK, which wouldn't happen if the company was unregulated as you claim.

 

[AuroraSaab]

You even seemed to take a perverse delight in pointing out that they were only allowed out of their cell for an hour a day. That they needed to be escorted by two prison officers during this time, "proved" your point of them being a danger to every other inmate.

And it wasn't in California either.

'He can't be dangerous if he's got 2 male guards' ..... that's why he's got 2 male guards.

No, in California they pretty much leave the women to deal with the male inmates.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Aurora wants different questions to be asked, because she doesn't like the answers she's getting...

I'd rather they asked specific, meaningful questions on women's rights. When they do - like when sports organisations ask female athletes - the answers are very much 'No, thanks' to male inclusion.

That you have to rely on a nebulous relative question as the lynch pin of your 'All women everywhere disagree with you' mantra shows the paucity of your argument.

And just because GenderGP PTE Ltd isn't regulated by UK authorities, does not mean it is unregulated. She is still registered as a doctor in the UK, which wouldn't happen if the company was unregulated as you claim.

Not true. Her maintaining her UK medical registration is unrelated to how she is employed by companies based abroad. The medical register can't possibly track the ethics or business practises of every overseas company that a UK doctor nurse works for.

It's a loophole that needs closing, whether it's puberty blockers or other drugs being prescribed by medics abroad without proper patient evaluation.

 

[classic33]

'He can't be dangerous if he's got 2 male guards' ..... that's why he's got 2 male guards.

No, in California they pretty much leave the women to deal with the male inmates.

Nice to see you acknowledge that a trans man is a man. Maybe now you can explain why you can't or won't apply the same to trans women.

There was no mention made of the sex of the guards who escorted him in his hour out of his cell. Is that just another assumption on your part?

 

[classic33]

It's a loophole that needs closing, whether it's puberty blockers or other drugs being prescribed by medics abroad without proper patient evaluation.

It's an international trade, on a very large scale, and not by 'big pharma" either. Not always sold by anyone with any medical training either.

 

[AuroraSaab]

I'm not. Trans men are women. I assumed we were talking about BK. As usual, your posts are harder to decipher than the Rosetta Stone was.

 

[classic33]

Not true. Her maintaining her UK medical registration is unrelated to how she is employed by companies based abroad. The medical register can't possibly track the ethics or business practises of every overseas company that a UK doctor nurse works for.

And you're absolutely certain on that point. How do the check medical professionals that arrive here from abroad?
They check the person, not the company normally. Which is what the medical register is there for, individuals not companies.

 

[Deleted member 159]

a trans man is a man

TiF Trans identifying female

 

[classic33]

I'm not. Trans men are women. I assumed we were talking about BK. As usual, your posts are harder to decipher than the Rosetta Stone was.

I'm talking about posts made by yourself. Maybe that explains why you're having trouble with them.

Barbie Kardashian was in prison in Limerick, not in Dublin.

 

[classic33]

TiF Trans identifying female

Aurorasaab disagreed with you, for a while.

 

[Deleted member 159]

Aurorasaab disagreed with you, for a while.

Did she, where is that?

 

[multitool]

I'd rather they asked specific, meaningful questions on women's rights. When they do - like when sports organisations ask female athletes - the answers are very much 'No, thanks' to male inclusion.

What you want are leading questions, but those leading questions and the answers will tell you very little.

For example "Do you want Jews to be allowed to eat cats? will elicit the 100% unanimous answer 'No!'.

But that does not mean that people are concerned about Jews eating cats any more than it means Jews are actually eating cats.

Clearly rational thought does not come easily too you, which is how you come to be captured by a cult.

That you have to rely on a nebulous relative question as the lynch pin of your 'All women everywhere disagree with you' mantra shows the paucity of your argument.

Both of the elements of that statement are untrue. See above for why you are so wrong.

 

[Deleted member 159]

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