Gender again. Sorry!

[CXRAndy]

Saving themselves for doubles. Where it's two blokes against two females.

 

[monkers]

Saving themselves for doubles. Where it's two blokes against two females.

Speculation is never evidence. It is not even opinion.

 

[CXRAndy]

So why post an irrelevant results page. We all know blokes are faster, stronger than women

 

[AndyRM]

It was an article about Hyrox, not who completes in what category.

It's basically an slightly updated version of the previous year's article.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68300338

There'll probably be another one in January 2026 when people are all keen on taking out new gym memberships that they'll only use for a few weeks.

 

[monkers]

So why post an irrelevant results page. We all know blokes are faster, stronger than women

Irrelevant? It's Emma Smith's results page.

At elite level sport that tends to be especially true. But when you manufacture outrage that a trans woman wrote an article and came 152nd competing with women in amateur level competition, you're just puffing your chest out.

 

[AuroraSaab]

'It only matters if they win' is a poor argument against unfairness in sports.

Every woman who got bumped down a place by Smith's male inclusion has lost out. He's a mediocre male using his male advantage to rank higher than women. He would have been a lot lower in the Men's category.

 

[icowden]

Does that include girls in sport at school

Obviously, unless they are prepubescent in which case it makes no difference and trans isn't an issue anyway.

 

[CXRAndy]

I've been kicked out of planet fitness and crunch.

Soon Golds Gym will kick you out if you continue to use women's facilities


View: https://x.com/Andreia_O_Nobre/status/1986233149043474525?t=MdkpyM93GpxrFu_z-Fayvg&s=19

 

[monkers]

'It only matters if they win' is a poor argument against unfairness in sports.

This is not what I had said. I didn't trouble to read beyond that point, because it does not follow from that, that there can be a cogent argument.

 

[monkers]

So let me get this straight, women cannot refuse to undress with this man below because he demands it, is that right? That sounds like male sexual predatory behaviour to me.

Of course women can refuse to undress in front of other people - the same for any person.

It is not ''male sexual predatory behaviour''. The argument that mere presence in itself is sexual predatory behaviour hasn't passed previous standard legal tests, where the conduct of the individual is the trespass. If the problem is a lack of facilities, then the options of the correct thing to do include making a complaint about that lack of facilities, or electing to go somewhere else.

 

[CXRAndy]

The mere presence of a male in female changing areas is enough to make females feel vulnerable

You should know this

 

[monkers]

The mere presence of a male in female changing areas is enough to make females feel vulnerable

You should know this

I didn't say otherwise. But if you think that means that ''women have no choice'' that is a false claim. People always have choices and they make them accordingly. I understand that there are people who do not like changing in front of others - I am one of them. Based on that, I choose the places that I visit in accordance with my needs.

 

[CXRAndy]

Why should women be forced to do something different which has been accepted practice for so long.

It was only when men started claiming to be women caused the problem

 

[monkers]

Why should women be forced to do something different which has been accepted practice for so long.

It was only when men started claiming to be women caused the problem

I see why people have a problem with you. I clearly said that women are not being ''forced'' to do anything. We are all free to exercise choice.

If you are not understanding the words, then I suggest Adult Education classes. In fact, it appears you need something more beneficial in your life - why not give it a try?

 

[icowden]

It was an article that presented male inclusion in female sports, by a journalist who himself competes in female sports, as normalised and not worthy of comment, when in fact it is highly contentious.

It presented male inclusion in female sports so well that it made no mention of it. With stealth propaganda like that, we stand no chance.